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Ukerric

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Not being able to buy AK15 is a big letdown. I'm at AK7 right now and was very much looking forward to the huge boost (catchup) in AP gain.
I think you can buy up to 10 with no cooldown at all, it's just still costing 500 resources per AK. The catch-up item is 500 resource for a straight jump to whatever.
 

yamikazo

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I think you can buy up to 10 with no cooldown at all, it's just still costing 500 resources per AK. The catch-up item is 500 resource for a straight jump to whatever.

Will find out soon enough. I should be right about AK10 on my DH on Tuesday. If it's AK15, it propels my AP a month forward. If it's AK10, my Pally alt will appreciate it.

In any case, faster AP gets me more power which makes me enjoy the game more!
 

Fyff

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Will find out soon enough. I should be right about AK10 on my DH on Tuesday. If it's AK15, it propels my AP a month forward. If it's AK10, my Pally alt will appreciate it.

In any case, faster AP gets me more power which makes me enjoy the game more!
Aren't all the AP levels up to 20 like 3 days now? I feel like everything on my DK is still 3 days and he's around 10ish.
 

BoozeCube

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I still feel like they fucked up big with the AK horse shit. They could of made up some Blizzard Lolore about how Khad-bro learns more about Legion every week or whatever unlocking the knowledge across the game. Or in the very least did it account wide, but they choose to do this aids style shit which discourages alts or even returning to this garbage.
 

yamikazo

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Aren't all the AP levels up to 20 like 3 days now? I feel like everything on my DK is still 3 days and he's around 10ish.

Mine have all taken five days. Maybe I'm doing it wrong? It's like that on the app and in the game.
 

Fyff

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The one that says 3 days on the app is 3 days and 13 hours. It will be three days from when the first one completes. Are you mistaking 5 days 23 hours for 5 days? Basically the first one takes 3 days, the second one takes 3 days plus whatever time you have left.

Edit: @Booze - It goes super fast now. So my DK is AK 8, almost 9 so at 3 days each I am less then a month at max level. I am ilvl 868 and already have 2 gold dragons in two weapons. I'm not poopsocking it and as an alt he has never seen more then heroic EN. This expac is actually really alt friendly.
 
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Khane

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AK every 3 days is not what I'd call "super fast". And for someone trying to catch up to people who are maxing their weapons because they have AK25 there is a huge power gap that they just can't feasibly close in the system as it currently stands.

It's bad design. Not as bad as EQ where there was no AA catch up mechanic at all, but still bad.

I can't think of any good reason why they shouldn't have done it gamewide. The entire server gets AK at a set pace. Every character on every account new or old.
 
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Fyff

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*shrug* Unless you are at the top levels of poop socking you can be competitive enough. In less then a month I have 2 gold dragons in two weapons, am ilvl 869ish and tank M+ in the 8ish range without issues. That's pretty good for a month. Can I jump in to Mythic En and do well? Probably not yet, I sim at 280k DPS which is prolly not good enough. I would argue in one month being able to do all but the top end content in the game is pretty good.

With the catch up obviously it will be better. Once 7.1.5 hits I will be hitting my 35th trait in like a day. At that point I will be able to easily roll in to Mythic Raiding. Heck, my plan is to raid NH on my alt and I would bet that it goes just fine.
 

Khane

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You'll be able to get AK20 instantly but only because you have a main at higher than 20.

For a fresh account they'll only be able to get to 15 and that will cost them 500 order resources each level (If I understand how it currently is slated to work correctly) which they probably won't be able to scrounge up. Especially since they'll also need to work towards their second legendary ability in the order hall which costs a ton of order hall resources to get to.

It's better than nothing but like I said, I can't think of any good reason to do it this way rather than just unlocking it for the whole server as time went on.
 

Fyff

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*shrug* With bloods being 200 order resources each and the daily giving 1500 (so 4500 right when you hit 110 and open quests) you should be able to run through stuff pretty quickly and be valuable. The AK 15 is tiered IIRC so you don't have to have the whole chunk at once.

Is it a great way to do it? No. I liked AA's in EQ so I am probably the odd duck out in liking the artifact weapon. I wish it was structured more like AA's though and less linear. I doubt we see this kind of grind after this expansion as I don't think it achieved what the developers wanted from it. Same thing with the legendary system.
 

Noodleface

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AK, artifact weapons, and world quests are all fucking dumb.

Id rather have to grind AA

Also legendaries
 
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Fyff

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World quests are pretty retarded, we can agree there. I do my 4 daily and that's it. I don't even look at the rewards anymore, I just look for which 4 are fastest because anything that is in a world quest is just faster to get some other way.
 

Ao-

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I like WQs, but I don't really do much else because of scheduling.

I liked the Artifact system, AK, and traits until I thought about it... as people has said... instead of trying for two weapon drops, you now need 3... per spec. The catch-up mechanic isn't in place yet (next patch), and the trait system is so massively fucked if you take it the wrong path (and it hurts to refund 1 pt worth to respec).
 

Noodleface

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World quests are pretty retarded, we can agree there. I do my 4 daily and that's it. I don't even look at the rewards anymore, I just look for which 4 are fastest because anything that is in a world quest is just faster to get some other way.
I don't even do them unless I'm insanely bored. Sure I'm missing out on legendaries but fuck it.

I FUCKING HATE DAILIES
 

Palum

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Just wait, it gets better. Once almost all the hardcore people are at cap on all their weapons, the amount of carries for M+ and DF dungeon and raid runs will plummet. Once content consumption goes down overall legendary acquisition rate will plummet as well, causing even more burnout.

It only gets worse from here...
 

Fyff

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and the trait system is so massively fucked if you take it the wrong path (and it hurts to refund 1 pt worth to respec).
Honestly traits come so quickly that it's really not an issue and refunding is the dumbest idea all time. Stay away from the refund button. Who ever thought it costing a whole level worth of AP was reasonable is retarded.
 

Dandai

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Anyone can buy AK15 immediately in 7.1.5, but they will pay 500 resources for each rank of AK. At AK15 the research is no longer instant and will take 2-3 days to complete (just like it does now). The only advantage for having a high AK main is that the MAIN can pay 1k resources for an instant catch up book that they can mail to their alt (and save the alt from paying 500 resources per rank). If the main is AK25 then the alt book is AK20 instead of AK15.

So a player that only started playing Legion on the first day of 7.1.5 could be AK 25 in as little as 3 weeks.
 

Dandai

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Just wait, it gets better. Once almost all the hardcore people are at cap on all their weapons, the amount of carries for M+ and DF dungeon and raid runs will plummet. Once content consumption goes down overall legendary acquisition rate will plummet as well, causing even more burnout.

It only gets worse from here...
I started experiencing this after I reached point 35. I don't think I ran 3 M+ dungeons in December. Consequently I've been stuck at 3 legendaries since mid November. I plan on chaining some this week and next for the final push to 54 points before NH, but after that...