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kaid

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Get out of dungeons. Go unlock the Broken shore, do the invasions when they are up, and buy dauntless gear from the vendor on BS. Boom, full 850 gear. I hit 110 on an alt today and am already ~845 without buying and upgrading any crafted gear.

Pretty much this. Do one invasion and you will have enough nethershards to fill every slot you can with them which leaves you needing to do WK for a ring and a trinket. Honestly the most annoying thing to fill out is damn relics for your artifact weapon. Keep an eye on WQ that have relics. Eventually if you get enough nether shards you can get relics purple token things but its a crap shoot and expensive.
 

kaid

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At AK40 1 item maxes out your weapon (the 30mil token). On an alt you can get from a fresh weapon to concordance in a week.

Or less depending if you are willing to bang through suramar quest lines. My monk hit 110 on the fourth and now is a couple points shy of concordance and I was not even playing much yesterday. With AK 40 getting up to functional level is pretty fast and easy now. Again biggest speed bump is fucking relics.
 

Jox

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Limit gave up on ToS cause a large part of their raid got banned for real money sales a few days ago.
 

Khane

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Limit gave up on ToS cause a large part of their raid got banned for real money sales a few days ago.

I thought they got banned for that like 2 months ago? It happened again? Are they that stupid?
 

Noodleface

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I watched that fatass mage stream a bunch and he has the most dry boring personality ive ever seen. Hopefully he was banned with the rest of limit
 

BoozeCube

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I don't feel one bit sympathy for these morons. Honestly I kind of wish Blizzard would crash down harder on these people selling runs and shit. The ones who are blatent about on twitch and shit should get perma bans.

Before someone chimes in that this shit has exsisted since Vanilla, they should of banned the fags back in Vanilla too.
 

McCheese

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"Thank you for all your support during this time." as if some horrible, tragic death in a family just occurred. Raiding is srs business. they can go fuck themselves.
 
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Sumdain x

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if you log on tichondrius in prime time there are at least 10 people spamming trade chat with "BUY GOLD FOR $$", "TOS SELF PLAY RUNS $$$" its always the same people advertising usually with a code on the back so you can say who referenced you on the website. ive reported them so many times and nothing happens, so i just ignore them now.
 

Tarisk

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if you log on tichondrius in prime time there are at least 10 people spamming trade chat with "BUY GOLD FOR $$", "TOS SELF PLAY RUNS $$$" its always the same people advertising usually with a code on the back so you can say who referenced you on the website. ive reported them so many times and nothing happens, so i just ignore them now.

I think these spammers are also on compromised accounts and typically spam from a char for a minute, log, delete the char, make another and spam again.
 

Sumdain x

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unless they are deleting and remaking a character with the same name its the same folks on Tich. i dont think blizzard cares anymore to be honest unless its one of the top guilds doing it.

I also know a few people who buy items/mounts/runs for money and nothing happens to them, as well as people who have bought several accounts to gear. its funny how people suddenly have a fully geared "alt" that just randomly shows up.
 

Khane

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Don't know if this has been asked here before.

If I have all Frost legendaries but keep my loot spec as frost for relics and such will I never get another legendary or will it randomly choose a different spec legendary for me?
 

Burns

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Don't know if this has been asked here before.

If I have all Frost legendaries but keep my loot spec as frost for relics and such will I never get another legendary or will it randomly choose a different spec legendary for me?

They changed it to give you a random one now. Up until 7.2, I think, you wouldn't get anything and the BLP would stop counting up, or so I read.
 
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Penance

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I played during the whole Naxx 40 debacle (i think we cleared spider + patchwerk) the issue with the zone wasn't necessarily the difficulty which was a huge kick in the face, it was the number of people who were actually geared to do the zone. there were no catch up mechanics in the game, you couldn't just go quest in the brokenshore for 3 hours and get a full set of 850-880 gear and then lfr and get a working 4 pc, then grab a legendary 970 from a random heroic. you couldn't go to tanaan and be 900ilevel(higher than normal HFC if i remember correctly). We had applicants during Naxx that were still in dungeon gear and we would have to run them through BWL+moltencore to get their 4 pc, then run them through AQ40 for random gear pieces, just so they could join the main raid. this was exacerbated by the fact you needed 40 people who wouldn't "burn out" mid raid tier.

Then if someone got tired of regearing new applicants or just didn't like the way strats were handled they were quickly poached by other top guilds because they were already geared. it led to this giant vacuum where only 1-2 guilds per server could actually have a functioning raid force that was adequately geared. Now i geared up my warlock to 903 ilevel in a week just doing M+ and LFR.

the taunt mechanics were definitely a pain but that was actual game design problems (yay warriors need spellhit now) the actual mechanics of the fights weren't hard, watch a video of any of the fights and there was maybe 1 grouping/spreading mechanic in 90% of them. Kungen likes to rant and rave about " lol naxx was the hardest thing in the world" when it actuality it was just a gear check. I would say take any guild that has cleared Mythic NH or the first few bosses of MToS and they would have no issue in naxx if gear was equatable.

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Mythic KJ is buggy as shit and once again requires crazy class stacking. the phase 2 soaks have to be soaked by DPS with immunities so it leads to people wanting mages/hunters/DH/paladins to stand in shit there are also 2 "tank soaks" in that phase (that the tanks cannot get due to the felclaw debuff). It's also amusing that even with the recent 25% nerf to the damage on Phase2 zones on Mavatar no guild other than exorsus or method have killed it.

I predict we are going to see sweeping difficulty nerfs to a lot of the mythic fights in the near future, probably after the first few M-KJ kills.

On another note i'm really enjoying the sisters fight, we are getting it to sub 50% after about 18-20 pulls and it feels like a fight that is well tuned with a lot going on but is manageable, probably my favorite fight this tier so far.

While the soak mechanics are definitely a shit part of that fight, the real reasons those guys are getting boned are the timers are all fucked up. Last night we had 3 Armageddons in a row not 10 seconds apart. Obviously a bug. While I agree that the last boss of a tier should be tuned for that tier, the bugs are kind of making it impossible to phase through him.

Still, it's nice not having this guy go down in 1 week. Artificially cock blocked or not.
 

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Then if someone got tired of regearing new applicants or just didn't like the way strats were handled they were quickly poached by other top guilds because they were already geared. it led to this giant vacuum where only 1-2 guilds per server could actually have a functioning raid force that was adequately geared.

100% this. I was in a guild that kept leaking our best recruits to the "better guild". It was also annoying as fuck to get 40 people attuned to Naxx. They had to be leveled, walked through MC and BWL, we were clearing both every week, just to prep. Then the huge die off at the end of vanilla made it a challenge to field regular BWL runs. Every new motherfucker had to get their stupid fucking cloak, and get attuned, or we had to manually walk that asshole through UBRS to the portal. Then if you wiped at any point, you had to re-clear trash for that same asshole who wasn't attuned. It was all just so much of a pain in the ass. The quantity of loot wasn't there, either. 2-3 pieces per boss for 40 players? No tokens, and the Naxx tokens were stupid as shit, requiring all sorts of secondary mats that also dropped in Naxx to build your pieces. The amount of effort that went into farming was insane. You needed repair gold, you needed specific pieces of fire resist gear, then hey, now you need frost resist, and shadow for that one fight... Naxx was a colossal failure, but it showed them how bad the Vanilla model was for endgame. AQ40 had whole other issues. Like requiring reputation to get those shitty not-really-upgrade pieces. The only saving grace of that time was ZG, and AQ20 to help fill the gaps.
 

Burns

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I think we can look forward to Naxx TW for this reason. Hopefully they don't use the tuning from 25/10, though, because it was silly mode easy by then.

I dont think they could get the incentives right with the gear check tunning to give an authentic experience and get enough people go back to Nax 40. I guess we will see next week with BT, or, at least, some of you (cause fuck if I ever want to go back there). I was told, or read somewhere that BT is going to be tuned to be on par with normal mode ToS, so I would hold little hope, if you want to timewalk Nax40 with hardcore gear checks.

I played during the whole Naxx 40 debacle (i think we cleared spider + patchwerk) the issue with the zone wasn't necessarily the difficulty which was a huge kick in the face, it was the number of people who were actually geared to do the zone. there were no catch up mechanics in the game, you couldn't just go quest in the brokenshore for 3 hours and get a full set of 850-880 gear and then lfr and get a working 4 pc, then grab a legendary 970 from a random heroic. you couldn't go to tanaan and be 900ilevel(higher than normal HFC if i remember correctly). We had applicants during Naxx that were still in dungeon gear and we would have to run them through BWL+moltencore to get their 4 pc, then run them through AQ40 for random gear pieces, just so they could join the main raid. this was exacerbated by the fact you needed 40 people who wouldn't "burn out" mid raid tier.

Then if someone got tired of regearing new applicants or just didn't like the way strats were handled they were quickly poached by other top guilds because they were already geared. it led to this giant vacuum where only 1-2 guilds per server could actually have a functioning raid force that was adequately geared. Now i geared up my warlock to 903 ilevel in a week just doing M+ and LFR.

the taunt mechanics were definitely a pain but that was actual game design problems (yay warriors need spellhit now) the actual mechanics of the fights weren't hard, watch a video of any of the fights and there was maybe 1 grouping/spreading mechanic in 90% of them. Kungen likes to rant and rave about " lol naxx was the hardest thing in the world" when it actuality it was just a gear check. I would say take any guild that has cleared Mythic NH or the first few bosses of MToS and they would have no issue in naxx if gear was equatable.

Ah, right, that kinda jogs my memory a little. Getting 40 people not to stand in void zones, and try to reduce the number of carries to 10 or less was one of the main challenges of 40 man raiding!

I think we were able to clear the first 2 bosses in each wing fairly early, and then it was just a game of funneling the right drops to key people (tanks first), to take on the last boss of the wing. Then you get to 4 horsemen and need 4 proper geared tanks... at which point the burnout was in full swing and we started seeing 20% attrition, including myself!
 

Burns

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AQ40 had whole other issues. Like requiring reputation to get those shitty not-really-upgrade pieces. The only saving grace of that time was ZG, and AQ20 to help fill the gaps.

The saving grace of AQ40, as a rogue, was that I got to look like a Mexican wrastler in my set pieces!

Just look at that magnificent bastard! It hasn't aged well, it looked much better 2006, I promise...

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The saving grace of AQ40, as a rogue, was that I got to look like a Mexican wrastler in my set pieces!

Just look at that magnificent bastard! It hasn't aged well, it looked much better 2006, I promise...

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Rogues were the only ones who really got upgraded for that tier. Believe the top dps builds of the time were doing 2+4 tier, or something like that. Tanks didn't, because the T2 bonuses were too strong, and druids were all out fucked because of agility taking up stat points on gear for a pigeonholed healer, meaning it had less intellect than BWL gear. Just remember everyone not wearing any of the pieces, and we ran it for necks/rings/trinkets -- mostly trinkets. Or we were just sick of staring at lava and black walls.