World of Warcraft: Current Year
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Without the Artifact weapons and other artifact powers I'm wondering if BfA isn't going to seem very hum-drum. When they first announced it sounded like all the cool stuff was moving away from the artifacts and into the Azerite powered armor, but the actual abilities are really boring as hell.
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Korillo
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Balance druid got a massive rework, far larger than any other spec in the game. That's why it's not being touched again for a while, other than tweaking their numbers. They are actually pretty decent so I wouldn't be worried about balance.
I honestly don't see BFA changing this. You will likely want 2 full sets of azerite gear for every spec, and you will still be changing talents just as often as you had to in Legion. Sure, you don't have to carry around all your legendaries, but you'll still be carrying around your azerite gear & trinkets. You just won't be able to swap mid dungeon, which I don't know is good or bad yet. Leaning towards not great though.
Sumdain x
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Demo got gutted. the numbers will obviously need to be tuned since its the "new shiny" but as it stands right now it is by a large margin the weakest warlock spec. PTR numbers have been entertaining, as a BrM kegsmash hits harder than a chaos bolt from a destro lock. Guard on BrM is pretty fun, but it definitely needs to be tuned, right now its like a single ignore pain every 30 seconds, not amazing. hopefully they adjust the scaling numbers.
Ion probably isn't wrong that 99% of the playerbase doesn't change gear in M+, but then again i would like to see the numbers on what percent of people have completed a 20? gear swapping only really becomes mandatory at the 22+ level for unavoidable one shot mechanics.
Ion probably isn't wrong that 99% of the playerbase doesn't change gear in M+, but then again i would like to see the numbers on what percent of people have completed a 20? gear swapping only really becomes mandatory at the 22+ level for unavoidable one shot mechanics.
Sumdain x
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Balance right now is pretty strong on beta, originally we were going to have 5 warlocks on the raid team but i think 2 are swapping to balance. these are some of our stronger players and they think balances potential is higher than warlock atm (not counting any last minute crazy tunings)
kaid
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Unless something drastic happened to Demo in the last week they were in a really strong position. One bug I noticed with the last build is the demonic commander is not extending the duration of existing pets although it is still listed as doing something on the tool tips. They are also doing some weird stuff with scaling numbers that is making some of the azurite powers basically do nothing so I think any issue is probably just a matter of some numbers/scaling stuff and should be easy to hammer out. Otherwise the talents and rotation seem to be in a really good place.
Sumdain x
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yea the rotation and talents are good but the last balancing patch pretty much nerfed all of demos numbers by 10-20%. obviously they may readjust and increase the numbers but right now they reduced them so low it does a 2/3rds of the damage of the other specs. New affliction feels strong, but the haunt/Shadow embrace tier seems like a waste.
as far as keys go, i hate running things over 20, but that could be because i play BrM and we only show up in like 2-3% of keys over 22+.
as far as keys go, i hate running things over 20, but that could be because i play BrM and we only show up in like 2-3% of keys over 22+.
kaid
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Wow okay so I did not see the first big number balance pass hit and boy the felguard got nerfed haha he apparently parses lower than the void lord at the moment. Given how many abilities demo warlocks have that empower the felguard I am kinda guessing those numbers continue to be tweaked. Honestly I think if they keep the rotation and the talents then it is just a number juggling issue and that should get resovled without too much problem.
kaid
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One funny note is they almost have to buff fellguard to at least the DPS of the other warlock pets again because otherwise people will just whip out one of the other pets and change their talents to avoid the ones that command the fel guard to do something. Seeing demos avoiding the felguard is something I don't think blizz will let last long.
No, they just missed nerfing the other ones the first time round, they'll kick the other pets in the dick next patch.
Foggy
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Not removing aoe grip or at least nerfing it into the ground is going to remain a massive issue.
Sumdain x
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The mass grip helps, but isn't the primary issue.
The primary issue with DK tanks is the ability to give the group almost on demand 20% leech (1 min CD?) and the ability to survive one shot mechanics without the reliance on externals. this is the only reason you see 4x dps + 1x tank. also for example with bone shield and ossuary they can take a dark slash from ymiron and survive on a tyrannical 26ish key, where as other tanks would need to use a longer CD (except warriors). even a monk with mystic vitality and wearing T20 will drop to >10% hp. the base HP pool that DK's have + the reactive nature of being able to control their self heals to max out basically every time a large hit comes in is the huge advantage. I would also say DK's are one of the primary classes that can abuse how strong their tank legos are, belt for example really makes VB usable every other trash pack.
so HP pool size to survive one shot mechanics, coupled with a very reliable self sustain and maxing out at 24-25m hp is the real advantage.
The primary issue with DK tanks is the ability to give the group almost on demand 20% leech (1 min CD?) and the ability to survive one shot mechanics without the reliance on externals. this is the only reason you see 4x dps + 1x tank. also for example with bone shield and ossuary they can take a dark slash from ymiron and survive on a tyrannical 26ish key, where as other tanks would need to use a longer CD (except warriors). even a monk with mystic vitality and wearing T20 will drop to >10% hp. the base HP pool that DK's have + the reactive nature of being able to control their self heals to max out basically every time a large hit comes in is the huge advantage. I would also say DK's are one of the primary classes that can abuse how strong their tank legos are, belt for example really makes VB usable every other trash pack.
so HP pool size to survive one shot mechanics, coupled with a very reliable self sustain and maxing out at 24-25m hp is the real advantage.
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Cyrr
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Nola
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Tank wise who do you think are the strongest ones currently? I've only done tons of dungeons and so far it's vdh and dk are leading the pack. Which im not surprised the self healing tanks. I was hoping prot warrior gets more love but I wasn't impressed with them. Pally and brm I'm still feeling them out and I didn't even touched bear tank.
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