World of Warcraft: Current Year

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Dumar_sl

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It's their fucking fault they made every god-damned ability insta-cast and spammable to the high fucking heavens to begin with. Now when they try to introduce *some* measure of slowed-down gameplay in a game that even ADD-riddled tweenies say 'woah easy on the twitch', people will naturally get upset.

You can't fucking cure WoW's cancer with sleeping pills.
 
Kreugen

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Exactly what "RMT advantage" does buying a lv90 a year and a half into an expansion provide?

I mean, if it was Everquest and they were handing out maxed AA people would be shitting their dick nipples with rage but, all this gives you is a character in greens five months after the final content patch. Who gives a flying fuck?
 
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The question is more like how does the micro transactions effect me. To which i say they don't and the reason they don't matter in today game is everything is so instanced the world has little effect on the player. I personally don't agree with micro transactions because Im oldschool and the enjoyment of the game comes from my own progress. The sad reality is this is pretty much the last product released that had some qualities that we used to love and it's being heaped into the shitter with the rest of the garbage. I still play daily because i like the game but that doesn't mean i pretend to not know what's on the road ahead.
 
Titan_Atlas

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LFR is hilarious right now with all the instant 90s
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Yeah took mine into TOT last night they were on Horridon. Two people doing 150k dps every single other person doing between 30k and 60k myself included. Healers dying by second door, everyone leaves after two wipes. Was mildly funny cause it's not like i was any better.
 
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I have been in a number of raiding guilds that collapsed after the final content patch. That long stretch before a expansion is brutal, and idiotic. You have to like raiding for raiding's sake because you get to the point that your main character and multiple alts have all the toys. So you just end up going through the motions every week and it's fucking awful heh. What makes it even worse is that you start replacing that gear in the new expansion almost immediately.

I feel for you guys that are staring down the barrel at another 6+ months of SoO.
 
mkopec

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Thats always been Blizzards problem. Good quality shit, but at my grandmas with a walker pace. I also dont like how this game is turning into more lobby shit as the years go by. Last time I played like 6 mos into panda land, I never left Org like lv 10-85.
 
Guzrog

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Personally I welcome the boost. Paladin is the only thing I had never really leveled and even though I attempted it multiple times I'd lost interest around plague lands or BC even with full heirlooms. As much as I loved it back then I don't see myself ever going through Cata, BC, and WOTLK again for the leveling experience. Glad to visit. No matter how fast it is these days. This gives my casual ass a chance to screw around with paladin, potentially get a cloak if I enjoy it enough.

Worst case scenario I would be playing the expansion anyway and I didn't waste the time trudging through the lower levels to find out if it's enjoyable. I carry the same mantra with leveling in wow that I do with new mmo's. If the shit isn't fun immediately I don't play. Cataclysm was tiresome by the time I hit cap so I didn't bother past one or two heroic runs. Same reason I played ESO 10 minutes. There's better shit to do than push through bullshit for "potential" fun. So thanks for the 90 boost and I'm happy for anyone it saves trudging through the leveling process if they have done it a million times and don't enjoy it anymore. It's their money. As far as RMT goes you guys and your gaming morals crack me up. Especially when many of you don't even play the game. Like Gonzo said the game is largely instanced and no ones progression blocked etc. because of a fresh 90 in some greens.

I also love my Celestial Steed and Iron Skyreaver. Burn.
 
mkopec

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RMT is no biggy. But the thing that sucks is that blizz made close to 200 million on RMT last year alone and yet they still charge you $15 per month. Either keep it sub based, or go full out F2P with RMT shit. They are double dipping you suckers and yet you still smile and take it.
 
Rime

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Kreugen_sl said:
Exactly what "RMT advantage" does buying a lv90 a year and a half into an expansion provide?

I mean, if it was Everquest and they were handing out maxed AA people would be shitting their dick nipples with rage but, all this gives you is a character in greens five months after the final content patch. Who gives a flying fuck?
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Pretty sure EverQuest is doing a 'catch up' mechanic now/in the future as well.

Yep.Heroiccharacters. Full set of gear, buttload of AAs, free special mount. The better part about that, is that they nerfed the most popular powerleveling methods so people will be more inclined to purchase the product in question.

Either way, I could care less about people 'buying' a level 90.
 
Falstaff

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mkopec_sl said:
RMT is no biggy. But the thing that sucks is that blizz made close to 200 million on RMT last year alone and yet they still charge you $15 per month. Either keep it sub based, or go full out F2P with RMT shit. They are double dipping you suckers and yet you still smile and take it.
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Yeah this is my problem with the game. I'd actually buy some stuff if the sub fee went away.
 
mkopec

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But they used to give away free 80s with the whole scroll thing. Just now they want you to pay for it.
 
Guzrog

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It's not like they're forcing peoples hands. While it is a game, it is still ultimately a business and people are choosing to purchase pre-order the expansion, 90 boost, transmog items, or mounts etc. No one reading the rants here or anywhere else is going "HOLY SHIT!!! I'm so glad you guys pointed out their tyrannical ways!" Flat out selling tier sets would be pretty silly to me but mainly because what is the point of the game if not to kill big shit and gather gear? People can buy cars in Gran Turismo 6 for RM and I could give a crap. I'll never buy the GT F1 car for 20 bucks or whatever it is but if someone else wants to for their enjoyment more power to them.

It's your money and your choice. Not my money and your choice.
 
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Agonizing the Bait Master_sl said:
So how do you get geared as a war tank these daya, havent played since wrath
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Timeless Isle mainly to start. Do heroics and scenarios to cap valor and you can either buy the 522 valor gear from Isle of Thunder or save it to upgrade raid drops. I'd suggest running the ToT LFRs as soon as you can (also helpful for cloak quest drops) and getting some gear from there before going into SoO. Having ToT trinkets and weapons can make a pretty noticeable difference from straight Timeless.
 
Guzrog

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Ubiquitrips_sl said:
Timeless Isle is the primary thing to do once you hit 90. This will pretty much get you outfitted with everything except weapon and a single trinket. Depending on how lucky you are you will get a burden or two. Download the handy notes plugin for timeless isle, helps make sure you get all the chests open. Try and hit up / tag celestials for a small chance of 553 legs / hands.

Depending on your class, look at the 553 crafted waist / leggings on the AH. They are usually pretty good and give a quick ilvl shot to balance out some lower items. Also check out the crafted weapons that are available. I was able to get a 502 2h for my DK when I hit 90 as someone was selling it for cheap.

Make sure to turn in your charms for warforged seals and start burning them on bosses that drop critical pieces of gear, weapon is generally the biggest for DPS types.

I found this link useful for gearing up.FAQ: I'm a fresh 90, how do I gear up? PATCH 5.4 edition : wow

Getting 496 is probably the first goal for SoO, but getting a good weapon and around ilvl 520 should be quick after it. At that point you can get in on Flex. From my limited experience, Flex is easier, saner, and a better experience than LFR. You do have to know the fights though which can take a week or two of LFR. There are also new mechanics to read up on.
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Few pages back.
 
Crone

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For anyone with a fresh level 90, I'd suggest running ToT LFRs a few times, before burning your timeless pieces for 496 gear. I had a fresh 90 hunter, and needed the Timeless Gear to boost me to 480 ilvl + to get into ToT LFR, but if I was already 480+, like the boosted 90's are, I'd save the Timeless Gear. After just 1 run of each ToT LFR, I've replaced 5 pieces of gear already. Sure wish I had those Timeless pieces banked for other toons. hehe
 
Kreugen

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Rime_sl said:
Pretty sure EverQuest is doing a 'catch up' mechanic now/in the future as well.

Yep.Heroiccharacters. Full set of gear, buttload of AAs, free special mount. The better part about that, is that they nerfed the most popular powerleveling methods so people will be more inclined to purchase the product in question.

Either way, I could care less about people 'buying' a level 90.
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Level 85 was over 5 years and 5 or 6 expansions ago and I bet those nerds are still losing their fucking minds over this. I think Elidroth had to go to war with the public to get them to accept catching up AA to four expansions prior, leaving only thousands of AA to grind out ("but I EARNED my 20,000 AA over the course of 15 fucking years, everyone should have to do the same before I'll accept them!")

But much of the same crowd would probably cry if WoW was only selling you level 70s with BC quest loot.
 
mkopec

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Yup, they wanted everyone to do it like they had to do it. Grind out those levels and the 4K AA. they were bitching when they gave the boosts to the AA leveling a few years back. I ant even fathom the amounts of ragequits over this shit over there.
 
Kreugen

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Except they had 15 goddamn years to do it.

The entire system is designed to make you never want to stop playing, never stop paying that sub, because you'll get impossibly behind. Except that is unsustainable - people get tired of your game for whatever reason, they will take a break. And then get so behind that they'll never come back. WoW does everything it can to avoid exactly this problem. Ten years later, WoW is still running at half of its peak subscribers.

AA should have been caught up every single time the level was raised in EQ. I'm sure the me of 2003 or whatever would have grumbled about it, but I would have come around eventually. Just like I have with LFR and Hard modes. (but fuck 10 man versions of the same raid)

The AA system is such a colossal fucking mess that simply figuring out where to spend points is a goddamn chore. And that's after it's been consolidated a number of times.
 
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Kreugen_sl said:
Level 85 was over 5 years and 5 or 6 expansions ago and I bet those nerds are still losing their fucking minds over this. I think Elidroth had to go to war with the public to get them to accept catching up AA to four expansions prior, leaving only thousands of AA to grind out ("but I EARNED my 20,000 AA over the course of 15 fucking years, everyone should have to do the same before I'll accept them!")

But much of the same crowd would probably cry if WoW was only selling you level 70s with BC quest loot.
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Itisfunny how Dumass isn't shitting up the EQ forum about that, though.

Actually Dumar, let me help you: You'll want to startabout here.
 
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