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kaid

kaid

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Making the epics comes from your skill or one of the crafting buildings. Upgrading it requires savage blood and the best current way to generate that is the barn. I expect most if not all folks are probably going to run a barn as one of their medium slots for their initial character just to get the savage blood rolling in ASAP.

One other change to note you can only ever have 3 profession specific epics equiped at one time. So if you have say engineering and are a hunter and a leather worker you could make epic gun/hat and then the 3 epic leather working pieces but you would have to chose which three of all of those items you want to equip. So it does limit a bit the utility of having double crafting professions a bit.
 
Kuro

Kuro

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Also, the Crafted Weapon is lower iLVL than the Crafted Armor, which is annoying. You'll still want to craft it before you start raiding... you'll just replace it immediatly, which is frustrating, especially if you dual wield. So many bloods pissed down the drain.
 
Vorph

Vorph

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kaid_sl said:
Making the epics comes from your skill or one of the crafting buildings. Upgrading it requires savage blood and the best current way to generate that is the barn. I expect most if not all folks are probably going to run a barn as one of their medium slots for their initial character just to get the savage blood rolling in ASAP.
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Barn should be on *every* character, not just the initial. The achievement to unlock rank 3 barn and start producing blood requires you to do 125 barn work orders. For a single character, that would take 21 days. 1 alt reduces it to 11 days, 2 takes it down to 7, etc.

One other change to note you can only ever have 3 profession specific epics equiped at one time. So if you have say engineering and are a hunter and a leather worker you could make epic gun/hat and then the 3 epic leather working pieces but you would have to chose which three of all of those items you want to equip. So it does limit a bit the utility of having double crafting professions a bit.
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Remember that cloaks aren't part of the unique-equipped(3) thing, so it's technically 4 profession epics. Assuming that's intended and not changed before release, of course.

Kuro_sl said:
Also, the Crafted Weapon is lower iLVL than the Crafted Armor, which is annoying. You'll still want to craft it before you start raiding... you'll just replace it immediatly, which is frustrating, especially if you dual wield. So many bloods pissed down the drain.
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Realistically, most people won't even have 15 bloods by the time raids open. I definitely will not be wasting blood on a weapon.
 
Burren

Burren

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So what you're all saying is: if you have only one lvl 90 that you're going to play, all this garrison bullshit will take a lot longer.
 
Vorph

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Yes, much longer because of the achievements required to unlock the rank 3 buildings. Alts are extremely useful for unlocking the buildings you decide are most important to your main.
 
Kuro

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Vorph_sl said:
Realistically, most people won't even have 15 bloods by the time raids open. I definitely will not be wasting blood on a weapon.
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You have 18 days to get bloods, with alts on the barn (and gathering professions giving you Primals that can be turned in for more blood) that's more than enough to make 215 Work Orders you'll need to get the achievement and 90 blood. You need to do about 12 Work Orders a day at that pace, which is only a main and a single alt. Add another alt, and you'll have more than enough bloods to make your replacement piece of crafted after you replace your Weapon with raid gear. High pop server may have more difficulty securing this on a reasonable timeline, since there will likely be more people fucking with each other in the Nagrand Trapping.
 
Ukerric

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
Lets talk about optimal garrison building. Does anyone have a guide or plan for what they are doing and why? I have spent very little time on the topic.
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I disagree on the Inn being necessary (besides the fact that you only have 2 medium plots). You get every type of encounter counters as followers in quests and clicky objects.

Does the Storehouse provide really additional apexis? I thought it didn't had any work orders associated...
 
Vorph

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Storehouse increases the amount of work orders you can queue up at your other buildings. Which is practically useless unless you're going on vacation for a week.
 
Aaron

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The thing I'm mostly wondering about is how hard will it be to change buildings and how often you will do it over the course of this expansion (~2 years?). If it's not too difficult then people will probably find that there will be one setup for leveling. One for gearing for raiding and getting set in the new expansion and finally people will be changing between buildings to get fluff (mounts, pets, toys, achievements, etc..) and finally (if applicable) using them to get ready for the next expansion.
 
Kuro

Kuro

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It's very easy. You pay a couple hundred gold and 100-300 garrison resources at the architect table to replace a building with another one. If you haven't used the new building before, you'll generally have a few set-up quests to do, but they're generally rather short.
 
Vorph

Vorph

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Once you have the blueprints unlocked and a stockpile of resources, it seems fairly trivial to switch buildings.

As for the Inn, it's almost all fluff. The dungeon quests are mostly for cosmetic items, toys, and mini-pets, and the treasure hunter missions are hardly what I'd call "highly lucrative" if Wowhead's data is correct. I can see swapping to it once you are done with reps and no longer need a Trading Post for generating GR but not before that.
 
Kalaar kururuc

Kalaar kururuc

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Main benefit to the inn is the level 2 ability to specify specific types of follower though. Was considering one for that reason alone. Confused as hell, but then not like im bleeding edge raiding any more so I shouldnt really give a shit if im not min/maxing the garrison
 
Vitality

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Gorehack

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Luchadore bros. Go to timeless isle graveyard with a buddy and trade kills, auto rez every 30 seconds none of that waiting 2 minutes bullshit.
 
Rime

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Gorehack_sl said:
Luchadore bros. Go to timeless isle graveyard with a buddy and trade kills, auto rez every 30 seconds none of that waiting 2 minutes bullshit.
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Go into SoO and instantly respawn at the entrance, with no timer at all.

Had a group of 10 people do it together. 1 person killed the other 9, then swapped.

Took maybe five minutes for all of us to get that horrible achievement.
 
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Osiris The Everliving_sl

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Man wtf , i still have yet to recieve my boost from pre ordering , been almost 5 fucking days now and still no response on my ticket i submitted at that time. Man this is some bullshit.
 
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