World of Warcraft: Current Year

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Has anyone been running into FPs problems lately? I'm bouncing all over the spectrum from 100+FPS - 2FPS and back up after I'm in the world for a few minutes. Running a 3570k ivy bridge and a radeon 9770 w/8GB of RAM so I'm thinking it's not a hardware issue and I tried all of the usual suspects.
 

Lambourne

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EU-Draenor (one of the highest population EU realms) was actually very playable after the server side updates yesterday morning. Garrison dropped a few times but worked most of the time, and I had no issues with combat or item lag. Server had an 8K+ queue at one point though, I'm sure plenty of people never got in at all. Lots of people around level 94-95 now so population should be spread out a bit more.

I'm liking the expansion content so far, tone seems a bit more serious than MoP. Garrison does seem to be fairly time and click intensive. Precursor to World of Farmville app?
 

Itzena_sl

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I think we're unquestionably into worst launch to date territory.
Have popular servers been down (not locked with a queue,down) for multiple days at a time yet? No?

Then it's not the worst WoW launch. (It's probably thesecond-worst by now, though, and apparently for te same reasons as vanilla launch - Blizzardhugelyunderestimating demand).
 

Palum

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I still don't understand how any of this makes sense. I finally got in after hours and hours (and hours) of waiting, and I'm still baffled at the hodge-podge of random ass characters that come with you through the Dark Portal. I seriously must have missed something, because none of this makes sense. I figured out Velen wasn't one of them when he was like 'Who are you guys?' but the rest of it is anybody's guess.

Even just following the assumption that Garrosh must have apparently escaped and traveled through time because of the opening cinematic (disregarding the complete non sequitur here...), which Khadgar is it and why does he have Atiesh again if he isn't young Khadgar? I saw all the videos with Maraad talking to Varian, so I get him being there... but then you go through time and destroy the dark portal but somehow it's OK because you can just go back and forth with no story explanation? Why could the old horde connect the old JJ Abrams Star Trek Dark Portal to the current Dark Portal? If they knew what they were doing, why didn't they just Stargate TimeWarp to a more critical time where they wouldn't face any resistance?

On top of it all, there are a ton of caves which Khadgar teleported into old Draenor and somehow fused into the ground. I recognize them so I know he did it - like the Northrend Vrykul caves that somehow teleported to Tanaan and were filled with Orcs.
 

Ukerric

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A simple guesting system would solve most of this bs, this is getting into Archeage launch levels of shitty.
Spend some of that cash, hire engineer that did work on GW2/whatever recent MMO "mega servers" where you launch new zones whenever you need some, done.

The technological advantage of the mega server-type tech is that you only need as many servers as you have players. Any zone that sits unused has its computer resources reclaimed to spawn a - different - zone that is approaching overcrowded. When you expect a big spike, you rent a few racks of servers for 1 or 2 months (there's lot of brokers that will lease you servers for a time), put them on your datacenter, and you're golden.

But, of course, that would mean you care about the user experience, instead of expecting them to suck it up anyway (like we do, in fact), and you won't lose more revenue than you'd need investment.
If you have the option of migrating to a smaller realm and can do it without fucking yourself over, I can definitely recommend it.
Alternative solution is, if you have a friend who's playing with his/her guild in such a server, to group with him/her. With the guesting system, you get to play on that server relatively lag-free. Your only problem is getting back into your garrison - laggy servers often have problem spawning your garrison instance. I almost wish there was a garrison queue so you'd get in.

Oh, and whomever made such a number of flypaths go thru your garrison. Thanks a lot. Really. (where's my sarcasm tag? I swear I had it around, must have gotten used somewhere already)
 

Ukerric

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I'm still baffled at the hodge-podge of random ass characters that come with you through the Dark Portal.
Basically, we threw everyone that could be spared at the portal. Ok, Khadgar makes sense, he's been spending like 30 years in Outland so he's our expert on local situation, even if all his knowledge doesn't apply (that's gov. thinking for you). Thrall goes in because he wants to pwn Garrosh, the Exarch wants to atone for his failures during the original Orc assault on the Draenei. Liadrin (leader of the Blood Knights) is probably there so she can steal some naaru's blood. Can't remember the fifth major char that goes with you.
 

Kedwyn

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Over flow zones were an awesome feature of GW2. PIA in many respects with queues, friends etc but at least you could play the damn game.
 

Silence_sl

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I got L100 earlier in the day. As far as leveling content goes, I'd have to say it's their best effort yet. Very few warts in terms of quest progression, and many, many yucks along the way. The zone designs are just fucking amazing. The whole theme has a taste of vanilla WoW, but updated in a pretty amazing way. I won't point out anything in particular, because there are dozens of "whoa" moments along the way.

In terms of leveling from 90-100, then, this xpac is pretty epic. It pushes all the right buttons, and so very few of the wrong ones.

AAA title, just in leveling content alone.

Beyond that, some nits to pick. Flights taken from flight paths should be 240% speed. If you nixed flying because you wanted us to experience content, then...get us to that content faster.
 

Itzena_sl

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I still don't understand how any of this makes sense. I finally got in after hours and hours (and hours) of waiting, and I'm still baffled at the hodge-podge of random ass characters that come with you through the Dark Portal. I seriously must have missed something, because none of this makes sense. I figured out Velen wasn't one of them when he was like 'Who are you guys?' but the rest of it is anybody's guess.

Even just following the assumption that Garrosh must have apparently escaped and traveled through time because of the opening cinematic (disregarding the complete non sequitur here...)
I'm guessing you didn't do the later hourglass quests on Timeless Isle?

which Khadgar is it and why does he have Atiesh again if he isn't young Khadgar?
Khadgar-Prime. There's no Alt-Azeroth characters at all. Why does he have Atiesh? I dunno, why did Mograine have Corrupted Ashbringer? Why did King Chin canonically kill Onyxia?

I saw all the videos with Maraad talking to Varian, so I get him being there... but then you go through time and destroy the dark portal but somehow it's OK because you can just go back and forth with no story explanation?
Storywise you're supposed to be trapped until L100 or so. Gameplay-wise, they get you to Ashranearlybecause gameplay is more important.

Why could the old horde connect the old JJ Abrams Star Trek Dark Portal to the current Dark Portal?
Kairoz & the hourglass are the method, plus filtering sacrificed souls through Shadow Council members to get the fel energy needed to power the Dark Portal.

If they knew what they were doing, why didn't they just Stargate TimeWarp to a more critical time where they wouldn't face any resistance?
Because Garrosh wants revenge; he wants to prove that his idea of an all-conquering orcish Horde wasright, that the (player) Horde & Alliance werewrong, yadda yadda.

On top of it all, there are a ton of caves which Khadgar teleported into old Draenor and somehow fused into the ground. I recognize them so I know he did it -0 like the Northrend Vrykul caves that somehow teleported to Tanaan and were filled with Orcs.
Wow. Such petty. Much bitter.
 

Qhue

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See I don't see the levelling experience to be a good story at all. You go through the portal and in the course of the introduction you not only stop the invasion but blow up the damn portal. Sure you end up running at the end, but considering you came through with Khadgar and his Scoobies plus some raiders you do damn well against an until invading armada.

Then you get to local friendly faction home and save it (mostly) from the Iron Horde and set up your base. From that point on its all about making new bases across the world and your primary plot mover is often base construction as much as it is the Iron Horde who proceed to get their asses kicked all over the map. You have a couple of character sacrifices, but they feel somewhat meh as I didn't have much emotional investment in the one and the other was Alt version of a character that still exists on Azeroth.

To me the best zone was Spires of Arak as its story seemed to have some genuine ancient mystery combined with modern social analog all with good art and voicework (its goddamn Megatron for fucks sake) and almost zero Iron Horde involved. By the end of the levelling content I don't feel as if there are any real meaningful threats that need to be countered, the Sha seemed much more menacing than the thinly veiled promise of more Burning Legion because they no longer seem like ultra badasses but rather easily mowed down demontroopers.

I think I had a better connection, character-wise, with the Architect in my Garrison than anyone save Khadgar.
 

TJT

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Oh wow, seriously fuck the fishing shack daily in the Garrison, it took me like 45 mins to do it.
 

Creslin

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See I don't see the levelling experience to be a good story at all. You go through the portal and in the course of the introduction you not only stop the invasion but blow up the damn portal. Sure you end up running at the end, but considering you came through with Khadgar and his Scoobies plus some raiders you do damn well against an until invading armada.

Then you get to local friendly faction home and save it (mostly) from the Iron Horde and set up your base. From that point on its all about making new bases across the world and your primary plot mover is often base construction as much as it is the Iron Horde who proceed to get their asses kicked all over the map. You have a couple of character sacrifices, but they feel somewhat meh as I didn't have much emotional investment in the one and the other was Alt version of a character that still exists on Azeroth.

To me the best zone was Spires of Arak as its story seemed to have some genuine ancient mystery combined with modern social analog all with good art and voicework (its goddamn Megatron for fucks sake) and almost zero Iron Horde involved. By the end of the levelling content I don't feel as if there are any real meaningful threats that need to be countered, the Sha seemed much more menacing than the thinly veiled promise of more Burning Legion because they no longer seem like ultra badasses but rather easily mowed down demontroopers.

I think I had a better connection, character-wise, with the Architect in my Garrison than anyone save Khadgar.
Ya I really don't understand why blizz writers make every single story about the hero showing up and immediately winning. The shadowmoon storyline would have been way better if the dark Nauru had shown up and killed everyone. And just the story in general would have been better if it was us fighting as gorillas. Instead its day three of wod and the wars over except for a few guys holed up in caves.
 

Ronaan

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Friday: 6 hour queue, got to play from 1AM to 2AM in the end.
Saturday: 5.5 hour queue or something, fell asleep while watching TV in the other room. Woke up to character select. Sweet, 30 minutes played, 2AM, bed.
Sunday: Wife and kid asleep at 3PM. Log in. 2800 queue. FML.

I made it to lvl 92 only to find out that you have to have quests completed (a lot, and I'm missing a few still) in the first zone in order to get your garrison to lvl 2.

This is going to take a while.

also:
The mod of /r/wow is throwing a temper tantrum and set the subreddit to private until he gets to play.

Nitesmoke on Twitter:

lol
What a little bitch. Guess it's true, give someone power and they show their true face. Going home and taking his ball, is he?
 

Malkav

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Ya I really don't understand why blizz writers make every single story about the hero showing up and immediately winning. The shadowmoon storyline would have been way better if the dark Nauru had shown up and killed everyone. And just the story in general would have been better if it was us fighting as gorillas. Instead its day three of wod and the wars over except for a few guys holed up in caves.
I don't see what your "few guys holed up in caves" are. During the questing, we have not defeated any of the major Warlord yet. They all kicked our ass, even when we were the avatar of the fucking Arrakoa God-King. The only one we were close to kill was Blackhand but he got away somehow. Sure, we beat Garrosh, but those guys are now pissed.

We didn't win, far from it. We managed to avoid the invasion of Azeroth, but we're now stuck with them and their forces.

It's not because we had a few strategic victories during the questing that we "won" anything.
 

xzi

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Ya know, despite queues and login issues which I've fully expected to happen, I'm overall pretty impressed with launch IN GAME, I haven't ran into many bugs and for the most part the world has been super smooth feeling after the first two days. For now garrisons are exciting and the quest chains are enjoyable.

It's just.. well.. just getting in game is the problem, lol
 

Springbok

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Xpac is awesome IMO. Queues aside this has been by far the best leveling yet. Hats off on the content blizzard!
 

Palum

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I don't see what your "few guys holed up in caves" are. During the questing, we have not defeated any of the major Warlord yet. They all kicked our ass, even when we were the avatar of the fucking Arrakoa God-King. The only one we were close to kill was Blackhand but he got away somehow. Sure, we beat Garrosh, but those guys are now pissed.

We didn't win, far from it. We managed to avoid the invasion of Azeroth, but we're now stuck with them and their forces.

It's not because we had a few strategic victories during the questing that we "won" anything.
So you're sayingalldramatic tension is resolved in the first few quests where you blow up the Dark Portal? There's no more actual threat to Azeroth, you just basically run around solving local problems after that? That's pretty fucking weaksauce. I was assuming there was going to be a 'oh but they built a second Contact with Jodie Foster machine to get to Azeroth and you have to find and destroy it!!!!' type of story arc.

So yep, still going with the story is dumb and Red Letter Media would rip it about as hard as the prequels.
 

Vorph

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Beyond that, some nits to pick. Flights taken from flight paths should be 240% speed. If you nixed flying because you wanted us to experience content, then...get us to that content faster.
What I wish they had done was make another tier of [ground] riding skill that was like 250% or something like that. Riding around the zones to pick up treasures, kill rares, etc. is just excruciating when you know it's never going to get even the slightest bit better.

Or, you know, just not caved into the flying-breaks-my-LOLIMMERSION retards and left flight alone.
 

Itzena_sl

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Ya I really don't understand why blizz writers make every single story about the hero showing up and immediately winning. The shadowmoon storyline would have been way better if the dark Nauru had shown up and killed everyone. And just the story in general would have been better if it was us fighting as gorillas. Instead its day three of wod and the wars over except for a few guys holed up in caves.
No it wouldn't. Grimdark isincrediblyoverplayed and tedious nowadays unless you're thirteen and listening to My Chemical Romance on repeat. You know why our characters can bowl through the portal and immediately start wrecking shit?We're just that good. We're not some newbie fresh off the boat from Durotar; we've killed elder dragons, demon lords, the Lich King, a fucking Dragon Aspect, and anyone else who stood in our way. Hell, we've returned two Old Gods to not-death and flat out killed for real a third...which is supposed to be impossible.

tl;dr - The Iron Horde came to the wrong neighbourhood, motherfucker.