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kaid

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I've got a bodyguard. Some warlock dude. I just can't seem to find him anywhere in my garrison since assigning him to the barracks. I'll probably un-assign him and put someone else there today. And I made sure to hunt down the weaponsmith follower once I got the forge to 2. I've heard that the closer to 100 the follower the better but she's only 92 I think and every time I've gotten 2 bars from my work orders now. Not sure if just extreme luck or if the difference isn't that huge between her level and 100 for the bonus.

I do need to make it priority to hunt down some more followers though now that I'm 100
If a body guard is assigned to the barracks they stand right outside the front door of it. I have to say leveling up I found body guards kinda useless but at max level they really do help out when pounding through the hordes of stuff for apexis quests each day and grinding shatt defense reputation for trading post. The bird guy does a pretty reasonable amount of extra damage which makes things go faster and he is reasonably sturdy for holding up to adds for long enough for me to deal with them.

Yesterday me and two friends did a garrison invasion of orks. I am really really not sure how you wind up getting gold completion. We had three people and were killing stuff super fast. I lost no troops and no buildings and did all the events and special units as fast as they spawned but we wound up getting like 751 points and you need 1k to get gold and I simply don't see how that is even possible. Maybe invasions start ramping up in difficulty and give more points for killing stuff or something. I did get some level 645 purple pants from my invasion rewards so I can't complain to much.
 

TJT

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Because this seems to be relevant to the discussion!

But god damn, way to hide how to accomplish this and dat grind if you want them quickly/repeatedly.

 

Vorph

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Yeah you must play considerably more than I do. I have not unlocked all lvl 3 garrison buildings yet. But I am close and I am not worrying about it at all either. I'll probably unlock them sometime this week and build them as needed. I am not really trying to optimize for shit because I do not play like that... or care.

Expac's been out like two weeks man. Relax about it.
I was simply pointing out why your GR surplus wouldn't be a surplus at all to someone attempting to fully optimize their garrison in the 2.5 weeks between release and start of raids.

The worst part is that for all the time I've put into mine, I still can't do i630 missions at all and can probably only 100% about half of the i615's, because the bunker is worthless and my salvage boxes have completely dried up for over a week now. Hell, I've got a plain old 100 (the trinket one) that some jackass thought would be cool to slap a 4-counter requirement on, meaning you can only 100% through pure luck in how your epic followers happened to roll. I need that trinket badly for my DK since it is a bonus armor one that escaped the nerfbat that ruined most other trinkets last week, but I'm looking at 64% (80% on two enemies) success at best.
 

Needless

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You get gold by getting 1000+ points, if you get 700+ish by the end of the timer, without losing any buildings and killing all the people or anything the bonus' seems to put you over 1000 for gold.

I love the bodyguards though, even if they aren't that amazing.. it's still really nice to have their lvl 3 perks. If I use leorahj, i get to access my garrison table anywhere i go-and the warlock bitch, who is probably my favorite just because seeing a warlock tank is pretty sick-can create a summoning portal which is cool.
 

TJT

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I was simply pointing out why your GR surplus wouldn't be a surplus at all to someone attempting to fully optimize their garrison in the 2.5 weeks between release and start of raids.

The worst part is that for all the time I've put into mine, I still can't do i630 missions at all and can probably only 100% about half of the i615's, because the bunker is worthless and my salvage boxes have completely dried up for over a week now. Hell, I've got a plain old 100 (the trinket one) that some jackass thought would be cool to slap a 4-counter requirement on, meaning you can only 100% through pure luck in how your epic followers happened to roll. I need that trinket badly for my DK since it is a bonus armor one that escaped the nerfbat that ruined most other trinkets last week, but I'm looking at 64% (80% on two enemies) success at best.
Is having all of your buildings and stuff maxed/optimized out make raiding better in some way that I am missing? I do not think that they are intertwined and synergistic (after a point). Merely other shit to do, which is cool.
 

Vitality

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Is having all of your buildings and stuff maxed/optimized out make raiding better in some way that I am missing? I do not think that they are intertwined and synergistic (after a point). Merely other shit to do, which is cool.
Workshop/Gearworks gives items usable in raids (500kdmg nuke from time to time)

Salvage yard for +1 tier raid drops

Bunker/Warmill for raid gear bonus roll token once a week

Herb Garden for free "Flask-like" fruits each day.
 

kaid

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You get gold by getting 1000+ points, if you get 700+ish by the end of the timer, without losing any buildings and killing all the people or anything the bonus' seems to put you over 1000 for gold.

I love the bodyguards though, even if they aren't that amazing.. it's still really nice to have their lvl 3 perks. If I use leorahj, i get to access my garrison table anywhere i go-and the warlock bitch, who is probably my favorite just because seeing a warlock tank is pretty sick-can create a summoning portal which is cool.
Vs the iron horde invasion we were murdering all of the things really fast and we got to about 660 when it got the add up all the stuffs for victory points. Its possible that I would get more points for defending buildings if more of mine were level 3 right now I am still kinda focusing on ranking stuff up but we were killing crap about as fast as it was spawning.


But yes that video above is correct if you want invasions currently it appears that you need to just go on a massive murder spree. Also I am hearing kills while in a raid do not count so if you are doing the apexis type quest areas you won't get credit if you are raiding to bang those out fast.
 

Soygen

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Also I am hearing kills while in a raid do not count so if you are doing the apexis type quest areas you won't get credit if you are raiding to bang those out fast.
If true, that really sucks.
 

Vorph

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Is having all of your buildings and stuff maxed/optimized out make raiding better in some way that I am missing? I do not think that they are intertwined and synergistic (after a point). Merely other shit to do, which is cool.
In addition to what Vitality said:

Missions give 645 gear, some of which is BiS pre-raid. Or all, if you don't have hundreds of thousands of gold to spend on BoEs. I got screwed hard by RNG when it came to upgrading followers, but people in my guild who didn't share my fate have multiple 645 epics already.

Barn produces blood which is used to upgrade crafted gear twice. Theoretically, anyway. In practice it produces about one blood per day if you're lucky, so good luck upgrading anything without using the AH or spending a shitload of primals. I expected to have a 645 gun for my hunter easily, with the 655 only needing to wait a bit longer for gearspring parts... instead I'm looking at having to spend 500 primals today just to get it to 645 (and no, I'm not stupid enough to actually do that).
 

Qhue

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I consider myself ROFL-casual and did LFR only in MoP until the very last week when I joined a few overgeared normal SoO runs to get heirlooms. I mention this because I will likely have no reason to join LFR once the first wing opens next week. I will probably have to look for pre-made / group finder Normals. Much of LFR is a sidegrade at best from looking through the loot table and honestly the default secondary stat distribution on most the spell dps items do not compliment Arcane very well.

Many many pages ago I decried the loss of LFR in terms of viability and doubted that pick up raids could work for casual players but it looks like I will have to eat crow or just not play.
 

Tenks

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BTW I saw on reddit that there is some exploit allowing people to pretend to be GM's full on with the blizzard logo and everything next to their name. So if you get cold called by a GM and it sounds like they're scamming you -- they're scamming you.
 

Xequecal

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Very few rank 3 blueprint achievements done? Followers not L100+ because you're only cherry picking the GR missions? There's definitely something missing there, because it's simply not possible to keep up with fully upgrading a rank 3 garrison while powerleveling followers without lumber+post+rares/treasures. I've got one GR building, I've done 80+% of the rares/treasures, and I've stopped pissing away GR on the bunker's work orders, and I have a 3+ building queue waiting for enough GR to start construction on my main and even longer ones on my two alts. Each large building costs 2100 GR to go from rank 1 to rank 3, mediums are 900 each, for a total of 6000 GR to upgrade all four to max. 1800 more if you do the smalls as well, though that's not always necessary. And that's assuming you designed your garrison perfectly from the start and didn't get fooled by the beta guides that all recommended stupid shit.
I'm also swimming in GR with Barn/Inn now, the trick is having multiple followers with Scavenger. Once you've got a good crop of epic followers with double counters you've got a good shot at being able to stick both scavenger followers and an epic follower in the ~120 GR 3-follower mission and bump it up to 720. I've done this twice now, once I had it 100% (double counter + racial bonus off a scavenger follower) and once I had it at 80% (double counter, but scavenger follower too low level to contribute) and succeeded at both. I also just assign the scavenger followers to the single-follower GR missions even if they don't counter the threat, 60% chance to get triple is better than 100% chance to succeed.
 

Xequecal

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Vs the iron horde invasion we were murdering all of the things really fast and we got to about 660 when it got the add up all the stuffs for victory points. Its possible that I would get more points for defending buildings if more of mine were level 3 right now I am still kinda focusing on ranking stuff up but we were killing crap about as fast as it was spawning.


But yes that video above is correct if you want invasions currently it appears that you need to just go on a massive murder spree. Also I am hearing kills while in a raid do not count so if you are doing the apexis type quest areas you won't get credit if you are raiding to bang those out fast.
The Iron Horde invasion is bugged and does not spawn enough mobs to get to gold. Try any other invasion and you'll see its much easier.
 

sukik

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I'm also swimming in GR with Barn/Inn now, the trick is having multiple followers with Scavenger. Once you've got a good crop of epic followers with double counters you've got a good shot at being able to stick both scavenger followers and an epic follower in the ~120 GR 3-follower mission and bump it up to 720. I've done this twice now, once I had it 100% (double counter + racial bonus off a scavenger follower) and once I had it at 80% (double counter, but scavenger follower too low level to contribute) and succeeded at both. I also just assign the scavenger followers to the single-follower GR missions even if they don't counter the threat, 60% chance to get triple is better than 100% chance to succeed.
Pretty much the same, I have a 615 mission that will yield 630 with double scavenge at 100% once I get my massive strike scavenger a few more weapon points. I could run it at 88% but I have 36 hours before it expires so I'm waiting. If I'm reading the timer right anyway. I'm also like six days away from finishing my mount quests which yield some garrison rewards. I'll probably drop my stables after all the mount Achievements are done and build a war mill.
 

Vorph

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I don't have any scavenger followers at all, or an inn to make them, because I believed the guides that said a barn was worth a shit. For my alts, I'm converting them to inn/post, but my main is stuck for now due to lack of GR (and gold, sadly).
 

Grayson Carlyle

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Are you getting more than 6 level 100 missions per day? I had to get a new follower at 99 just so I actually have missions to send my followers on. I don't get any fewer 100s, just a lot more non-100s.
 

TJT

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Yeah, then I'm definitely rolling scavenger this next headhunter session. I'm actually looking forward to getting my next Garrison established on my alt since I made quite a few mistakes on my first one (burned schematic on barn... never used it because I hate barn). Built Trading post just to tear it down and make Tavern.

DK's is going to be way more solid.
 

sukik

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Are you getting more than 6 level 100 missions per day? I had to get a new follower at 99 just so I actually have missions to send my followers on. I don't get any fewer 100s, just a lot more non-100s.
I didn't get 6, but I think I got about 4 yesterday morning and afternoon until I picked up a level 91 follower I had missed. Now most queue is full of mostly 91/92 missions. Was on a good run of 600+ till that lowbie follower jacked up my flow. I'm power leveling him with followers that have exp boost, well trying anyway.