World of Warcraft: Current Year

Soygen_sl said:

God dammit, I've dusted the ones I've gotten.

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Same here... feels bad man. Oh well, at least those missions are worth repeating when they show up again.

Is the 2nd half of LFR as faceroll as the first?

Saban_sl said:

I honestly preferred itemization in cata/Mop more, reforging and regemming included. Don't care for tank stats at all this expansion.

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Agreed. However, I also paid for an Ask Mr Robot account and was willing to pay gold for constant reforging. The ONLY reason I liked it was that it opened the gap between "skilled and prepared" and "everyone else".

Noodleface_sl said:

Is the 2nd half of LFR as faceroll as the first?

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Considering my LFR group did the 2nd boss with 1 tank and 5 DPS dying right off the bat, I would say yes.

bixxby_sl said:

What are you doing during DP if you aren't dot weaving? (which is what I assume is putting up dots during DP & mind flaying). Or do you just mind flay with insanity and not worry about the other dots.

Personally I've just been doing normal old dots + mind flay with mind blast being my #1 priority spell after sw:death. Pretty much always right at the same dps or above the other SP I raid with that's doing the nuke spec. I just like the feel of playing dots & flay I guess.

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You mind flay with insanity during DP for pure CoP. Sometimes if there's a lot of adds that aren't all going to die in 10 seconds I'll multidot and weave on the boss (or just skip mind spike altogether, and just multidot and save dp and insanity for the boss).

Dots and flay are definitely fun, and is pretty ground in my memory muscle after doing it for so many years. I still think it's dumb from like a...lore perspective or something that our mastery, which was originally designed to make each class better at their main thing, goes against what the shadow priest's main thing has been for many years (dotting). I get why the previous mastery didn't really work in WoD, but it not enhancing dots still feels wrong. Then add in the CoP talent, and now Shadow itself is like 3 sub classes at 100, heh.

If I was in a consistent raid group or doing anything challenging I'd probably pay more attention to what does more dps for me personally, but it's all probably a wash and depends much more on someone's ability to execute perfectly while paying attention to fight mechanics. The other guy could just be crappy at it. Or have lesser gear. Or missing enchants. Or the sims once again aren't very relatable to real world fights. The sims show CoP really killing it, but I think they're just based on patchwerk fights. I believe it should still mean that's the highest theoretical dps, but even with CoP, you're supposed to be dotting adds I believe. Not worth it in heroics though.

Secondary stats for shadow are kinda all over the place. CoP, Dot Weaving, CoP Lite, plus the other two level 100 talents, all have different stat weights, but again it's a case of "sims vs real world". Even in the sims, compared to a point of intellect, the range for them all is .45 to .55. If you wanted to be crazy you'd have to have different gear for every fight depending on what kind've adds there were, plus changing out talents, to really "maximize" it all. But that shit just doesn't really matter unless you're doing Mythic progression or something, in my experience.

Mahes_sl said:

Considering my LFR group did the 2nd boss with 1 tank and 5 DPS dying right off the bat, I would say yes.

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How did they die? alcohol poisoning IRL?

Whirlwind claimed many lives.

I'd assume FIRE THAT SLOWLY MOVES IN A STRAIGHT LINE ACROSS THE ROOM is incredibly deadly to random LFR people.

Straight line? That shit is drunk, yo.

So after a fair bit of testing, MM is still about 1k dps ahead of SV for me in single target fights. MM is even further ahead vs. two targets, and it's not until 4+ that SV and BM pull way ahead. Sims of my own gear and in-game (LFR, but still...) testing have similar results. YMMV if you play in a magical world where multistrike exists on mail.

I don't see any way to drop MM at this point, but I did drop BM entirely.

Kargath - MM/Glaive (SV/Barrage/FS if you go in the stands)
Butcher - MM/Glaive
Bracken - SV/Barrage/LW
Tectus - SV/Barrage/FS
Twins - MM/Barrage
Ko'ragh - MM/Glaive
Imperator - MM/Glaive

That's my plan anyway. At least it's not all-MM-all-the-time any more.

No Winter Veil decorations for the Garrison? Wtf lazy art people!

My LFR died on both Twins and Korgath or whoever the fuck. If you stand in quake and WW on Twins you're gunna die.

Kreugen_sl said:

Whirlwind claimed many lives.

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This

decided to try heroic mode the last night before the reset. Kargath was np, went to Butcher and healers were complaining about healing my tank partner, a pug warrior. Look over logs and notice that he had a 4% uptime on his Shield block. No idea how he even managed to get ~650 ilvl with all the windows he must be licking, but after replacing him we managed to down butcher in a couple of tries, then wiped ~3 times on twin ogron before downing it and lastly, one-shot brackenspore all the while our rogue pug says on comms "this boss is really hard, requires a very extensive strategy and execution. You must heal the mushroom exactly when he does xyz and yadayadayada." We pretty much winged it and did it like we do normal and it was easy as pie. Looking forward to going 7/7 heroic next reset, but Imperator might make me cry =)

P.s. I made a ticket a couple of days ago on my Pally, about the old paladin unique weapon you got from the level 20 quest -Blood-Tempered Ranseurthat I had likely vendored sometime in the 8 years my paladin has been alive. I kept the tabard though. Any way, took a while for the GM's to respond but I got it sent to my mail which makes me happy. Going to create a damn cool transmog with it & blackrock armor now that ret paladins realistically can use polearms again

What is the point of the Mining and Herbalism professions now? I don't think it is even possible to use all the ore you gain from the Garrison mine even if you are maxing out both personal cooldowns and work orders on multiple buildings.

Qhue_sl said:

What is the point of the Mining and Herbalism professions now? I don't think it is even possible to use all the ore you gain from the Garrison mine even if you are maxing out both personal cooldowns and work orders on multiple buildings.

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I have a t2 excavation on my main and can feed a blacksmith and an engineer alt, which both have mining, but I don't really stop mining anything anymore and certainly don't go out of the way to pickup a node. I still have plenty of spare ore.

Being a brewmaster and without Barracks I never used a bodyguard, but assuming I want one for my shadow priest, what should I do? Barracks level 2 and then it gains level with me or do I have to be 100, level the bodyguard through missions and only then use it? It'd be sort of cool to have a tank or a healer bodyguard, or even a dps one to burn foes faster.