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Daidraco

Daidraco

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Really, all it comes down to is that you "should" play a class that can Tank or Heal if you decide to go DPS right now. That way all your eggs arent in one basket. If you go Druid, boomkin and Resto make for easy gear transitions. Warrior for tank and DPS and so on and so on. Just examples.

If you are sure you dont want to tank or heal, then I would highly recommend Mage. They just simply do consistently good damage among all the HM encounters. Their tool kit is just really good now. There are a couple talents that in my experience are just worthless... but they at least have options. Where as some classes are just stuck to one talent, like Serenity with Monks.
 
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Daidraco_sl said:
Really, all it comes down to is that you "should" play a class that can Tank or Heal if you decide to go DPS right now. That way all your eggs arent in one basket. If you go Druid, boomkin and Resto make for easy gear transitions. Warrior for tank and DPS and so on and so on. Just examples.

If you are sure you dont want to tank or heal, then I would highly recommend Mage. They just simply do consistently good damage among all the HM encounters. Their tool kit is just really good now. There are a couple talents that in my experience are just worthless... but they at least have options. Where as some classes are just stuck to one talent, like Serenity with Monks.
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To make it more complicated Survival Hunter once BRF releases (and we get multistrike gear) is parsing 2nd only to Arcane Mages, and aren't Warlocks basically just needing more crit(I think it was crit?) for Destro to really take off? That said Daidraco is right, you should really try and get a hybrid thing going on (just probably not a Shaman, but that's been the case for a few expansions now yea?).
 
Gorehack

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Jesus christ brackenspore is making me wish i hadn't switched to warrior from paladin. What a punch in the fucking cock.
 
kaid

kaid

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Arch_sl said:
To make it more complicated Survival Hunter once BRF releases (and we get multistrike gear) is parsing 2nd only to Arcane Mages, and aren't Warlocks basically just needing more crit(I think it was crit?) for Destro to really take off? That said Daidraco is right, you should really try and get a hybrid thing going on (just probably not a Shaman, but that's been the case for a few expansions now yea?).
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Yup I would hold off saying any spec is "bad" at the moment until the second part of the first major content patches raid is available. The first raids itemization is jacked by design and some classes can get by better with weird/bad stat allocations than others can. Some classes are going to take off once they can start getting set piece bonuses and stats that actually make a damn bit of sense for their specs.
 
Eidal

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Gorehack_sl said:
Jesus christ brackenspore is making me wish i hadn't switched to warrior from paladin. What a punch in the fucking cock.
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Why are you gemming/enchanting with poor man's enchants for progression Mythic, if you don't mind me asking? Also, all the theorycrafting I've seen puts crit > mastery for warriors given it's the only dependable way to raise Parry and we get a huge boost to Block from our ability. Do you know something different?
 
Qhue

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I have long wondered why Blizzard doesn't do something about Mages/Warlocks/Rogues/Hunters being classes that have only DPS specs. While I don't expect them to pull a tanking Mage or Healing Rogue out of their ass I would think they could come up with some sort of creative solution to the issue. They obviously know it is an issue since both classes added post release have been "hybrid"s and the most recent, Monk, being able to accomplish all three roles.

If anyone can figure out a way to reinvent the genre to include the ellusive "4th role" I would think Blizzard could. Rift came very close with their Support role but slipped in the implementation of it.
 
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Tenks

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Yeah when I first started back up I was a bit surprised blizzard didn't only not try and fix the trinity issue but seem to outright promote it. It would be an interesting and cool feature if 5 mixed and matched of any class could do dungeons.
 
Malakriss

Malakriss

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The problem with implementing a Tank/Heal/DPS/Enhancement dynamic is the "pure support" will throw intended scaling out the window. There's no way to accurately lower or raise the boosts from a low number PVP or PVE group environment all the way through max number PVE raids.
 
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Silence_sl

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Qhue_sl said:
I have long wondered why Blizzard doesn't do something about Mages/Warlocks/Rogues/Hunters being classes that have only DPS specs. While I don't expect them to pull a tanking Mage or Healing Rogue out of their ass I would think they could come up with some sort of creative solution to the issue. They obviously know it is an issue since both classes added post release have been "hybrid"s and the most recent, Monk, being able to accomplish all three roles.

If anyone can figure out a way to reinvent the genre to include the ellusive "4th role" I would think Blizzard could. Rift came very close with their Support role but slipped in the implementation of it.
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Or why a single role class needs three different specs of the same thing. All it does is make gearing up a pain in the nuts and doesn't add shit for diversity of gameplay in many cases. Take MM vs SV Hunter. Two specs are pewpewpew.pewpewpew.pewpewpew or pewpew.pewpew.pewpew.pewpew.pew. Same pew, different cadence. Blizz needs to shit heap all that AND their rather played out Don't Stand In X raid mechanic that's been every boss ever.
 
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Silence_sl

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Tenks_sl said:
Yeah when I first started back up I was a bit surprised blizzard didn't only not try and fix the trinity issue but seem to outright promote it. It would be an interesting and cool feature if 5 mixed and matched of any class could do dungeons.
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GW2 tried to break it...and failed miserably.

LOTRO had a .5 decent support class in the Captain class before they skullfucked it.
 
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Tenks

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Yeah rogue is a perfect example of 3 specs that overlap too much. Assassination is left in this awkward spot and in all instances there will always be a better spec for the encounter. Call me nuts but being forced to get the same gear with a few differences in the secondary stat is not fun.
 
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sebur

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kaid_sl said:
Once blackrock foundry comes out in a month or so I am guessing you are going to see the pure casters and rogues start to shine more as some classes just scale with stats a lot more than others do.
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I am waiting on this. I play arcane full time on my mage and switch between fire on tectus and such. I refuse to go back frost since arcane got buffed enough to keep up with frost. That being said, I am hoping BRF will bridge the gap with fire (which I think it will) and I can play that again as my main spec.
 
Kuro

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I am laughing so hard at the General Haste Improvement+The specific Frost DK haste "improvement." Sweet, now Frost DKs can softcap Haste with a single Haste item!
 
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