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World of Warcraft: Season of Discovery
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Lambourne
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No it's not. Tank gameplay is frustrating in vanilla classic, warriors for example are constantly rage starved and lack the rage buffs and control that they get in later expansions. Paladins can't even taunt. Making tanking more appealing by making it less frustrating will go a long way in making the game better for everyone by making tanks more numerous. Giving a mages a heal is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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Szeth
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Burren
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Like retail garbage, when everyone can do everything, then nothing is interesting or unique. It’s neat we are getting this different rule set, but it smacks of low effort, lazy bandaids to pander to the vocal community members.
Current leadership still thinks they are right and we are all wrong.
Current leadership still thinks they are right and we are all wrong.
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Chimney
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perhaps I misinterpreted what you meant, but what you said was the only real class balance issue in classic is tanking. This is a silly fucking notion since warrior is the only tank class in Vanilla, anything else is a stop gap for leveling/dungeons. That's all this really is too, shaman/warlock/rogue tanking, stop gaps for leveling/dungeons/pugs, adding a bit of diversity/class balance changes to the vanilla experience, especially the leveling up experience. I have little doubt that warriors will remain the premier tank at 60/raiding. Though with TBC/Wrath era class abilities what I do expect is the other classes to be fairly represented as DPS in raids instead of warriors also being the premier DPS at 60/raiding.
For the record, the problem with classic IS class balance, it's fucking atrocious for everything. DPS, healing, and Tanking. Every raid is 25 warriors, 5 priests, ~5 paladins/shamans, and then 1 of each other class as they are fucking useless. Horde tends to lean heavier on shaman and lighter on priests but that's because you have to have a shaman in every group, not because shaman are better healers than priests.
Also have you ever played WoW or any other MMO? you seriously think that lack of healers isn't a problem? it's almost as bad as lack of tanks. Giving heals to a popular DPS class is the solution to one of the largest problems that absolutely does exist, the same as giving more classes the option to tank. making it readily swappable runes rather than talents is a fantastic solution as well, since we don't have dual spec yet and Mages won't have talents for healing even if there was dual spec.
I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt but i'm struggling. Pretty much everything released so far for SOD has absolutely been answers/solutions to things that everyone wanted.
Jasker
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I feel like they are just addressing certain balancing issues and people are taking it as 'retail'. Not trying to take a dig at you Burren.
Like Fear Ward
And Weapon Skill
EDIT: Actually I'm not certain if this is considered more balancing or just 'forced race or class selection'
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Jasker
brown please <Wow Guild Officer> /brown please
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@everyone - Alliance PVE is ahead right now.
Does anyone want to state any additional thoughts about this?
It would likely be the case we have at least one guild on Alliance PVE
EDIT: Change your votes if your mind has changed or anything is different.
Does anyone want to state any additional thoughts about this?
It would likely be the case we have at least one guild on Alliance PVE
EDIT: Change your votes if your mind has changed or anything is different.
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Mist
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It seems like a relatively low time-investment server, given how everything is rolling out in phases. You'll be able to hit max level in 1-2 days of grinding each time.
I'll probably play this until I get to the point where I can solo BRD (which I could with field marshal gear in vanilla without these busted talents) and otherwise just see how fun rogues will be in WSG with the new pistol runes.
Jasker
brown please <Wow Guild Officer> /brown please
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My current era guild, who are decent guys, are playing horde on a RP server, whether it's PVP or PVE or East/West. I'm playing both Alliance and Horde. Warrior Druid on Horde / Warrior Hunter Paladin on Alliance. Really hope to find myself on your horde server, just thought I'd throw that out, again, that traditionally RP servers (horde included) have some of the best health and even faction-fun times.
Szeth
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I am pretty impartial on server. I'd even be willing to go PvE because it sounds like with the forced contested zones there will be world pvp regardless, and there are BGs either way. I just did Alliance leveling 1-31, 1-50, and 1-60 within the last couple of months and don't have it in me to go agane.
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Burren
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Remains to be seen. I “hope” it’s fun and engaging. But, there is a track record of bumbling mistakes and half measures.
TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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The make or break point will be how they react to things being completely busted. As bet your nuts everyone is 100% correct they have not really tested or attuned a single thing to this insanity outside of maybe the level 25 raid. The phasing will give them time to make some corrections but the lazy thing is to just do nothing and lol about it on Twitter.
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Szeth
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My wife works weekends (because she has for 12 years now) at a christmas tree farm between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Couldn't be a better time for me to have a time waster.