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If you do the same actions in the same order after loading a save, you will get the same results.
You can blow that 'low roll' on some nonconsequential action then try.
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You can blow that 'low roll' on some nonconsequential action then try.
Mures
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I don't think you even need to blow a low roll, just doing anything differently, such as moving one tile further instead of where you were can change the outcome. At least I know thats how it worked with chance to hit in the last one, and I believe hacking works the same way because I want to say I did just that and got different results.
Amzin
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Your anecdote is you misremembering, then, as it's pretty established that it works the way Mist described (did in XCOM 1 as well I believe). But yea, changing amount of distance moved, altering what order you do things in, even reloading then firing, all have their own different possible results.
Sulrn
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I'm going to have to double down here and say we were playing different games then because that doesn't describe my experience at all. I reloaded at several points in the game doing the exact same thing and getting different rolls on several points. The hack stands out specifically because of how frustrating it was, but there were multiple instances where I would take first move shoot with a sniper and reload if it didn't hit/hit hard enough.
Amzin
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Doubling down doesn't make you less wrong 
It's well known. There was a specific mod for XCOM 1 to change it, and I believe there's a mod on the way for XCOM 2 to do the same (if it's not out already). But remember, ANY deviation from the exact sequence can have different results.
Edit: Easiest way to test it yourself is to save with say, a 50% chance to hit an enemy from your exact spot. Save, fire, reload game, fire, reload game, fire, etc. and you will ALWAYS have the same result. If it was rolling each time it would vary within at most 3-4 reloads.
It's well known. There was a specific mod for XCOM 1 to change it, and I believe there's a mod on the way for XCOM 2 to do the same (if it's not out already). But remember, ANY deviation from the exact sequence can have different results.Edit: Easiest way to test it yourself is to save with say, a 50% chance to hit an enemy from your exact spot. Save, fire, reload game, fire, reload game, fire, etc. and you will ALWAYS have the same result. If it was rolling each time it would vary within at most 3-4 reloads.
If you do the exact same things in the exact same order after a save all the random rolls will be the same.
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Yeah you can see that in AI turns too. You'll get a promotion/achievement almost minutes before the action finally happens in some cases. It's a tad annoying honestly, they could at least have the decency to delay the result messages until the action actually happens.
Jait
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Ran into a strange bug tonight.
Recovered the Stasis Suit, and afterwards nothing would update. Building Radio Relay hit -4 days, while the excavation I had undergone reached -234 hours. Legit copy of the game. Will do some google fu tomorrow before I just reload a save from the previous mission.
Recovered the Stasis Suit, and afterwards nothing would update. Building Radio Relay hit -4 days, while the excavation I had undergone reached -234 hours. Legit copy of the game. Will do some google fu tomorrow before I just reload a save from the previous mission.
Vaclav
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Joeboo
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I'm wondering if my Shadow Chamber is bugged.
I first built it and there were 2 things to research. Both were available, I could have chosen either item, the green button was available on both. I researched 1 and now when I go back to my Shadow Chamber the other item is greyed out and it says "cannot research until all other Shadow Chamber research is completed"...but there isn't any other research. There's just this one item there and nothing new has appeared in over a month+ of in-game time.
Anyone seen anything like that?
I've even tried manually cancelling any other research being done in my science lab, and that doesn't change anything either.
I first built it and there were 2 things to research. Both were available, I could have chosen either item, the green button was available on both. I researched 1 and now when I go back to my Shadow Chamber the other item is greyed out and it says "cannot research until all other Shadow Chamber research is completed"...but there isn't any other research. There's just this one item there and nothing new has appeared in over a month+ of in-game time.
Anyone seen anything like that?
I've even tried manually cancelling any other research being done in my science lab, and that doesn't change anything either.
Mures
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Hmm...I didn't read that last line about you not having anything to do. I know that was the case in my playthrough, had 2 research options, researched one and then the other said "cannot research....", but I still had some other objective to complete though I don't remember what it was, that then gave me a new research option and after researching that I could then do the avatar autopsy.
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