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Sandman_Actual_sl

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I'm glad to see that we were able to keep things very civil in here despite what appears to be a moderately diverse result in the polls.

From my observation I'm pleased to see however that most people still appear to be politically aligned as far as the major policies go. Such as:
-Pro 2nd Amendment
-Pro Choice
-Fiscal responsibility
-Separation of Church and State
-Pro Marriage Equality
-Pro Universal Health Care
-Peaceful/Responsible Foreign Policy

Which is ultimately all I can ask for from this community. It's funny how most of us align ourselves with these different parties, but when the details are ironed out we really tend to have more in common with each other than we think. That's pretty cool to me. I guess it's just a matter how of we interpret things and how of course how each of our party's candidates choose to steer the course.
 
Agraza

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Universal Healthcare is not a platform of the Libertarian Party. Pro Choice, Marriage Equality, and the Separation of Church and State are not platforms of the Republican Party. Peaceful/Responsible Foreign Policy and Fiscal Responsibility are subjective.
 
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Sandman_Actual_sl

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Agraza_sl said:
Universal Healthcare is not a platform of the Libertarian Party. Pro Choice, Marriage Equality, and the Separation of Church and State are not platforms of the Republican Party. Peaceful/Responsible Foreign Policy and Fiscal Responsibility are subjective.
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I know and I totally agree, but that was my point. It doesn't matter what your party's platforms are, because you will most likely be unable to find yourself in alignment with 100% of their views and not to mention party candidates tending to steer their party's ship to their own religious/monetary/political agendas. I'm just happy to see that, despite everyone on this message board being in clear disagreement on their selection of political parties, we still see appear to be in political harmony with what I perceive to be the major platforms.
 
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Sandman_Actual_sl

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Also I forgot to mention that I think one of the biggest issues we face is people who tend to be all or nothing when it comes to the allegiance they put into their chosen party; the extremists. For example: Just because the Republican Party is pro-2nd Amendment doesn't mean one should completely commit themselves to every stance that party takes,buta lot of people today seem to be that way which is alarming.

My point was that we don't seem to suffer that same issue here on FOH, which furthers my belief that this community is more mature than we may act sometimes. That's all.
 
Randin

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Left-leaning Independent for me. I suppose I rationally ought to just register 'Democrat' and be done with it, but I've never been much for joining clubs.
 
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Zhaun_sl

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MaulNutz_sl said:
http://www.isidewith.com/

97% Green Party bitches!
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Sweet!

92% Democrats
Democrats: on social, economic, foreign policy, domestic policy, environmental, science, healthcare, and immigration issues

86%Green Party
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n social, environmental, foreign policy, domestic policy, science, and healthcare issues

58%Socialist
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n environmental, healthcare, and immigration issues

23%Libertarians
Libertarians: on foreign policy and immigration issues

4%Republicans
Republicans: no major issues
 
TrollfaceDeux

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I like how the questions are black and white. For instance, if I say, "pro-life." I am republican. Yet, when I say pro-life, I mean limited abortion rights and i am content with the option of abortion.
 
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Trollface_sl said:
I like how the questions are black and white. For instance, if I say, "pro-life." I am republican. Yet, when I say pro-life, I mean limited abortion rights and i am content with the option of abortion.
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You didn't notice one of the multiple choice buttons opened up more nuanced options?
 
Xeldar

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Lemon Party.

Realpolitik: I think both parties are controlled by corporate interests and one is hellbent in taking away my .308 first, while the other would be cool with a theocracy.
 
chaos

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Sandman_Actual_sl said:
Also I forgot to mention that I think one of the biggest issues we face is people who tend to be all or nothing when it comes to the allegiance they put into their chosen party; the extremists. For example: Just because the Republican Party is pro-2nd Amendment doesn't mean one should completely commit themselves to every stance that party takes,buta lot of people today seem to be that way which is alarming.

My point was that we don't seem to suffer that same issue here on FOH, which furthers my belief that this community is more mature than we may act sometimes. That's all.
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I remember that I was going back and forth with khalid on this board about how being a single issue voter is stupid. His thought is that he may end up voting Republican simply because the Democrats really have a concerted effort to take away guns. And I was arguing that was ridiculous and guns are ingrained in our culture and some regulation isn't the same as taking them away etc. And then they actually DID make a serious play for gun control, in a big way, and kind of made me feel foolish. It is hard to criticize someone for voting that way in a case like this, when they turned out to be right. A guy like khalid might not agree with half or most of what the party is saying, but when they feel the other party is literally trying to turn them into criminals, they get emotional about the issue. I would to, no judgement here on that one.
 
Big Phoenix

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chaos_sl said:
I remember that I was going back and forth with khalid on this board about how being a single issue voter is stupid. His thought is that he may end up voting Republican simply because the Democrats really have a concerted effort to take away guns. And I was arguing that was ridiculous and guns are ingrained in our culture and some regulation isn't the same as taking them away etc. And then they actually DID make a serious play for gun control, in a big way, and kind of made me feel foolish. It is hard to criticize someone for voting that way in a case like this, when they turned out to be right. A guy like khalid might not agree with half or most of what the party is saying, but when they feel the other party is literally trying to turn them into criminals, they get emotional about the issue. I would to, no judgement here on that one.
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Problem is when you look at what "some regulation" democrats are wanting passed. Once you realized that these "some regulations" are completely idiotic bans and severe limitations then its pretty easy to see why people would be one issue voters.

Its the same for drugs, gay marriage and a whole slew of other issues.
 
Vaclav

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The 'ban' people are usually a drastic minority though - Pelosi and a few others say some over the top shit and then a third of the caucus says its ridiculous so it would never happen.

Hell, odds are the SC would say no anyhow if it got there.

Wedge voting is stupid even when super polarized like modern Republicans - say a drastic Federal pro life bill came down the pipe - it would die from their 1/3 or so that dissents from something strict unless they toned it down severely. And even if it passes overly extreme stuff rarely passes the SC.

We get fewer things being passed with recent polarization- but its rarely not somewhere in the median regardless for legislation that has any prayer of passing since the majority caucus always has dissenters.
 
TheBeagle

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So what you are saying is 'fuck it, it doesn't matter what the crazies in either party say or do since the SC will over rule it anyway'? That's a dangerous line of thought and that kind of complacency has gotten us into this partisan shit hole we're currently mired in.
 
Vaclav

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There's not enough crazies for anything to happen more than a rare occasion that would cause political backlash so it wouldn't happen again, and the SC is a safety net.

R side of the equation is getting close to worrisome levels but while they're in the minority overall it's moot.

And if I was that hyper worried about crazies how could I vote at all? There's crazy supported issues I'm against on both sides - I couldn't vote D, R or even 3rd party.Since every one has a crazy faction I can't support.

I vote for moderates and don't really worry about who they tag themselves as being aligned with in views. I vote with the individual that best fits my views, rather than giving support to a random person based on my view of their organization.(Which IMO is the worst thing about most voters politically, they'll vote informed for a handful at most and party line for the rest - most crazies wouldn't get elected without party line voting)
 
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