2013 NFL Offseason and Draft

That was the year before last, he is fine.

Fair enough. Then there's your list of qb's who haven't been significantly injured running the read option. Not a single one of them has had a serious injury other than Vick, who missed the second fewest games of his career while they were running it, and RG3.

lol @ Kap argument regarding injury. Its the fucking NFL, any player can get injured regardless of position or type of scheme he is in. Its a stupid argument to spar over. He could have played pro baseball and is very good at sliding. Watch RG3 try to slide or some other bad sliding QB's and then watch Kaepernick get down. Its night and day.

Not only that but he will slip out of bounds if he has to. He could give two fucks about that tough guy bullshit where you should create contact instead of getting down or oob. All that matters is positive yardage and staying in the game.

As far as Colt McCoy I like the pick up. They replaced the 6th round pick the lost to get Boldin and got Colt McCoy for a 5th and a 7th. He is only 26 years old and was a prolific passer in college. Yeah who gives a fuck about the college thing, I get it, but what it does prove is if given time and a clean pocket he can pile up yardage and complete short throws that the 49ers like to call. He is kind of an interception machine, but Harbaugh will make sure he cleans that up. If he coached up Alex fucking Smith out of throwing picks and not turning the ball over then he can do it with McCoy.

edit: and lol Araysar. I know it hurts that the 49ers unearthed a Gem in Kaepernick (when a good amount of teams who needed a qb passed on him) so your trying to convince yourself hell get hurt. But in reality the Bears will be the team in the market for a QB in 3 years after Cutler puts on 45 pounds and succumbs to diabeetus.

Kaepernick is a big dude like Cam Newton, he can take a few hits a game and be fine. Russell Wilson is small, but he is a very compact runner. He knows how to get small and not take big hits and to get down. On top of those things, the read option is just a small piece of the 49er's and Seahawk's offenses. The Redskin's offense, on the other hand, is entirely read option. Which means every single play defensive players are looking for a chance to hit Griffin. On top of that he is small (bigger than Vick, but smaller than Kaep/Newton) and flails like crazy as he runs, his limbs are going off in every direction when hes trying to make defenders miss as opposed to going down with a however many yards hes gotten. Anybody can get injured at any time and its the nature of the sport, but Griffin is significantly more likely to get injured than Kaepernick and Wilson.

RG3 is the same size as Rodgers. Don't see anyone bitching about Rodgers running, or calling him small.

Not saying Kaeperbro doesnt deserve question or criticism. But he basically carried his team to a SuperBowl when everyone including myself doubted the hell out of him (remember all of the sweet head people were giving Aaron Rodgers before that playoff game? Almost no one picked the 49ers, and they werent even using the read option predominantly before then) in his first year as a back-up. This coming season he will have an entire offseason to work with Harbaugh and his wideouts like Alex Smith got a chance to last year. The results were clear as Smith led the league in completion % until the football gods unleashed Kaepernick via concussion.

Good Lord in Heaven, I'm siding with Araysar.

I think the evidence suggests that all option quarterbacks will eventually get knocked out for significant time, and that you are wagering whether their running performance will outweigh the time they're out of the lineup.

It's one thing to be hit in the pocket, when you have 5+ guys deployed to protect the QB, and defenders are coming at you from mostly a, say, 210 degree arc in front of you. It's another thing to be hit in the open field, with guys coming from all directions. (Whether or not those hits are liable to be more violent (the QB is also moving, more likely to have a leg or arm extended before the hit, etc.), I'm less sure of.)

Hell, what's the position with the shortest lifespan on the field? Now you want to turn the QB into that part time, and you don't think there will be any durability issues as a result?

Maybe Kaep is the one guy with the peripheral vision to avoid guys from the side. Maybe he's the one guy who won't slow down with time, who won't be caught from behind. But I sure wouldn't bet on it, much less assume that's the case.

Edit: Yes, the 49ers should be a favorite in the NFC. Hell, they should probably be THE favorite, it it wasn't for the other teams in their division. I'd enjoy this year and be more worried about the 2014 season, as it looks like contracts will be an issue.)

Wombat_sl said:

I think the evidence suggests that all option quarterbacks will eventually get knocked out for significant time,

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Where do you guys come up with this shit? What evidence? The only evidence that they will get hurt is that that they're a quarterback, and most quarterbacks get hurt at some point. And they're almost always hurt by hits and sacks in the pocket. Jeeze, some of you form an opinion and all of a sudden that opinion is "evidence" haha.

Nice fallacy. I'm over it, discussion is pointless with you.

No one? Really?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...rall-by-chiefs

I um, don't know who that is. Haha.

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durrrrrrrrrr, so guess I'm just not watching enough stupid nfl news.

Leon Sandcastle only seeks sexual gratification!

Dont believe the hype! But seriously, I dont even think he is funny. The voice Deion does is kind of lame as well as the whole shtick. I will agree a Leon Sandcastle football life is kind of funny and Goodell doing the promos for it was kind of cool.

Yeah, the Keapernick argument is stupid. If your wagering on him getting hurt, then go ahead. But he has shown an ability to get oob consistently and get down when in the open field. Also, when he is in the open field, he is usually the fastest runner whilst there, so all the haters can eat a dick.