zombiewizardhawk
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If they can give a fumble to another team after the play is whistled dead because there was going to be a "clear recovery", then there's no reason they should go to super slow mo to decide if his helmet came off before a guy fell into the end zone.
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So by that logic then, if you can award a fumble to someone even after the play is dead because it appears they recovered it and there was no contest for it. Why didn't they award the touchdown as it appeared there was going to be no one impeding his progress in to the endzone as he was falling without his helmet on?
zombiewizardhawk
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Am I the only one that hears "Pat McGroin" every time they say his name?
I think he was out cold when he crossed the goal line. He didn't move AT ALL for like 30 seconds after he hit the ground.Pretty sure the guy is dead
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It's also ridiculous that the instant his helmet pops off is reviewable, but not the helmet to helmet hit? If you're reviewing a play and you see something so blatant, not a judgement call, and clearly affects the outcome you should be able to factor that in.
The helmet to helmet hit was not an illegal hit. It is only an illegal hit to a defensiveless player like anyone catching a pass or a QB throwing the ball. Anyone running the ball or running after a catch can be hit that way.
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I wish it was that cut and dry. Keep in mind one of the first helmet to helmet hits to get fined when they arbitrarily started doing it was James Harrison on that Browns RB right in the middle of the line. Something that hadn't even been considered or talked about and BAM, here's a fine for a rule we just made up after it happened.
It's really arbitrary what they decide is illegal. Drew Brees got his facemask grazed as he fell down after a perfect clean hit to the chest, "OMG PENALTY AND FINE!!!". Yesterday Flacco got his head roughed up a lot worse on the one sack in almost the same situation and you heard nothing but crickets.
If a hit is helmet to helmet they can penalize and fine it if they want. Either way this one wasn't really a game changing oversight or something. Sanders and Suisham gave this game away, not the refs.
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If you hit someone in the head with the crown of your helmet, it's unnecessary roughness whether they're defenseless or not
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I'm sure you were complaining about the same type of hit that took Pierre Thomas out in the first series of the saints/9er's playoff game two years ago. Pierre Thomas was also out before he hit the ground changing a touchdown to a turnover, "lucky" for this guy he was on his back or else it would have been a fumble recovered by baltimore for a touchback.
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where have you been? thats an automatic 15, crown of the head in any situation.
any hit initiated by the crown of the helmet is a 15 yard penalty, regardless of whom has or does not have the ball or whether it was O or D
Oh it's a new rule for this year. You are right. The one exception is that it is not a penalty if it happens within the tackle box.