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i haven't read the book, so i don't know what arguments the author makes, but logistically speaking, it makes sense. it wasn't so much about the "effective" range. an mg-42 CAN kill at 2000m in the right circumstances, but normandy wasn't exactly ideal. first off, shooting a machine gun at a transport is a phenomenal waste ammunition. yes it CAN cause some serious damage to the transports but at what cost? movies and video games have taught us that soldiers carry around 2000lbs of ammunition at all times but that just didn't happen. ammo was a limited resource and the last thing an mg-42 emplacement wanted to do was run out of ammo. and remember the goal of a battle ISN'T to kill everyone. it's just to stop the other side.
also speaking about waiting until they allies were mostly out of the water... basically the same idea. a human who is half submerged in water is a significantly smaller target. a bullet fired into the water becomes close to worthless even fired at point blank range, much less at 200 meters out. again, it becomes a complete waste of a limited resource.
an mg-42 as a fire rate of about 1200 rounds per minute. the normandy operation lasted almost a month and a half. obviously that included way more than just the beach, and obviously they weren't firing 100% of the time. but if we look at how movies portray d-day. just a single german soldier would have fired off at least 30,000 rounds.
that absolutely does not add up.
edit: i've watched a few videos from shadiversity before. he's got some pretty good historical knowledge and he's entertaining enough if you enjoy the subject matter...
that being said there's a few people like him who've made videos about historical vikings in response to valhalla and i just... cannot be bothered to watch them because i know they'll suck all the fun out of it. the whole d-day experience from movies like saving private ryan may be historically inaccurate but they make the point plenty well that the whole experience sucked. it's real easy to be all "well, ackchyually..." but at the end of the day, this is entertainment, not history 101.
edit 2: i was just trying to figure out how much ammo was even used in normandy and no one really knows. i saw a post trying to calculate it based on how many people were killed by small arms fire (most of the deaths in ww2 were due to artillary fire, and an alarmingly large percentage of human deaths were due to starvation of pow's) and i came across this quote "Killing a man on the field of battle requires firing a mass of lead almost equal to his weight. Wounding him requires somewhat less." -Unknown
also speaking about waiting until they allies were mostly out of the water... basically the same idea. a human who is half submerged in water is a significantly smaller target. a bullet fired into the water becomes close to worthless even fired at point blank range, much less at 200 meters out. again, it becomes a complete waste of a limited resource.
an mg-42 as a fire rate of about 1200 rounds per minute. the normandy operation lasted almost a month and a half. obviously that included way more than just the beach, and obviously they weren't firing 100% of the time. but if we look at how movies portray d-day. just a single german soldier would have fired off at least 30,000 rounds.
that absolutely does not add up.
edit: i've watched a few videos from shadiversity before. he's got some pretty good historical knowledge and he's entertaining enough if you enjoy the subject matter...
that being said there's a few people like him who've made videos about historical vikings in response to valhalla and i just... cannot be bothered to watch them because i know they'll suck all the fun out of it. the whole d-day experience from movies like saving private ryan may be historically inaccurate but they make the point plenty well that the whole experience sucked. it's real easy to be all "well, ackchyually..." but at the end of the day, this is entertainment, not history 101.
edit 2: i was just trying to figure out how much ammo was even used in normandy and no one really knows. i saw a post trying to calculate it based on how many people were killed by small arms fire (most of the deaths in ww2 were due to artillary fire, and an alarmingly large percentage of human deaths were due to starvation of pow's) and i came across this quote "Killing a man on the field of battle requires firing a mass of lead almost equal to his weight. Wounding him requires somewhat less." -Unknown
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