Alien: Romulus (2024)

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Dr.Retarded

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HUH HUH ITS ALIEN REIMAGINED 🤓
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I wish I would have been as exuberant as Hudson while watching this abomination. Movie hell indeed...
 
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I don't think Alien holds up well at all. The chestburster scene has been parodied to hell and back and the sfx is so dated. It's a very slow plodding film.

Aliens is great from start to finish with lots of action and killer scenes.
I don't say this enough and I should...
You're wrong.

That being said. This movie is a piss poor homage to first.
 
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I don't say this enough and I should...
You're wrong.

That being said. This movie is a piss poor homage to first.
This movie is shit all around outside of some ok special effect. There is only Alien & Aliens imo
 
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This movie is shit all around outside of some ok special effect. There is only Alien & Aliens imo
Hey I like the director's cut of three, but it's still not the best in the original trilogy. Resurrection now like I said is a masterpiece compared to this stinker.
 

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I'm not trolling, the third is a good movie, or at least the director's cut is. You just have to look at the first three as completely different types of films, first being horror, second being action, and the third more of a character drama.

Resurrection I guess is more of a wacky sci-fi adventure, but I have no idea why they picked the goofy French director to make that film.
 
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I'm not trolling, the third is a good movie, or at least the director's cut is. You just have to look at the first three as completely different types of films, first being horror, second being action, and the third more of a character drama.
Agreed, the Assembly Cut runs over 30 minutes longer than the theatrical cut and is a different, and in my opinion, improved experience.
 
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Agreed, the Assembly Cut runs over 30 minutes longer than the theatrical cut and is a different, and in my opinion, improved experience.
To my understanding that whole production was apparently a very bad nightmare for David Fincher. I think it was the first big movie he actually did because prior to that he had just been doing music videos. I think the fox executives relieve screwed up everything, but like you said it's a really good film, I just don't think he was able to navigate the system at that period of his career.

Not asif the guy didn't become a pretty fantastic director.
 
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To my understanding that whole production was apparently a very bad nightmare for David Fincher. I think it was the first big movie he actually did because prior to that he had just been doing music videos. I think the fox executives relieve screwed up everything, but like you said it's a really good film, I just don't think he was able to navigate the system at that period of his career.

Not asif the guy didn't become a pretty fantastic director.
Yeah, he wasn't officially fired from Alien 3, but he left the project before post-production was completed. Fincher endured a lot of shit from FOX throughout the production (script was rewritten multiple times during filming, often without Fincher's input.) He has since then disowned Alien 3, refusing to participate in any events or special editions. In interviews, he has described the experience as one of the worst in his career.
The Assembly Cut of Alien 3 was created in collaboration with editor Terry Rawlings, who worked on the original film.The team referenced original scripts, production notes, and unused footage to reconstruct a version closer to Fincher's original intentions.
 
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Yeah, he wasn't officially fired from Alien 3, but he left the project before post-production was completed. Fincher endured a lot of shit from FOX throughout the production (script was rewritten multiple times during filming, often without Fincher's input.) He has since then disowned Alien 3, refusing to participate in any events or special editions. In interviews, he has described the experience as one of the worst in his career.
The Assembly Cut of Alien 3 was created in collaboration with editor Terry Rawlings, who worked on the original film.The team referenced original scripts, production notes, and unused footage to reconstruct a version closer to Fincher's original intentions.
It's a real shame because it would have been 10 times better had they just let him have creative autonomy, but I guess that's what happens when you're first time director with a big IP.

I just watched a lot of behind the scenes retrospectives and stuff about the film, and I guess that's one of the reasons I may be appreciate it a little bit more. He was still able to make a good movie, and got wonderful performances from his cast. I'll typically watch the first three every year back to back, and I still enjoy the third one.
 
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It's a real shame because it would have been 10 times better had they just let him have creative autonomy, but I guess that's what happens when you're first time director with a big IP.

I just watched a lot of behind the scenes retrospectives and stuff about the film, and I guess that's one of the reasons I may be appreciate it a little bit more. He was still able to make a good movie, and got wonderful performances from his cast. I'll typically watch the first three every year back to back, and I still enjoy the third one.
You also have two interesting scripts that, for various reasons, never made it to production.

One of them is called "The best Alien script never made" , William Gibson's original screenplay for Alien 3, written in 1987.

The story takes place aboard a massive space station called the Sulaco, controlled by two rival factions: the Union of Progressive Peoples (UPP) and the Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
The script heavily incorporates Cold War allegories, focusing on corporate espionage and political tension. Ripley is largely sidelined, spending most of the story in a comatose state.
The primary protagonists are Hicks (Michael Biehn) and Bishop (Lance Henriksen), who take center stage in battling a new Xenomorph threat.
Gibson introduced the concept of a spreading infection caused by Xenomorph DNA, which could alter and infect humans in new and terrifying ways.This idea predated later concepts explored in Prometheus and Alien: Covenant.
The screenplay balanced the tension and horror of Ridley Scott's Alien with the action-oriented approach of James Cameron's Aliens, creating a story that felt like a true evolution of the franchise. The script delves into the broader universe, exploring the sociopolitical ramifications of humanity's encounters with the Xenomorphs.

The second one is considered to be the most unique and ambitious concept in the franchise’s history, and it’s Vincent Ward's draft for Alien 3.

The story was set on an artificial, monastic world made entirely of wood. The planet functioned as a secluded sanctuary for a group of Luddite monks who rejected technology.
Its design combined medieval architecture with spacefaring technology, creating a stark contrast to the high-tech environments of the previous films. The wooden planet featured shifting, modular architecture, where the wooden structures could be rearranged to create new spaces or to trap intruders. This was seen as a metaphor for the monks' spiritual and physical isolation, with the environment constantly evolving around them.
The Sulaco crash-lands on the wooden planet, bringing Ripley and a Xenomorph with it.The monks view Ripley as a heretical figure, believing her arrival to be a bad omen.
The story explored themes of faith, isolation, and the clash between spirituality and science.
Ripley’s battle with the Xenomorph was framed as a metaphorical struggle between good and evil, with the monks interpreting the creature as a literal demon. The script introduced a different form of the Xenomorph, adapting to the wooden environment in eerie ways.
The creature was stealthier, using the shadows and labyrinthine wooden structures to hunt. Ripley's ultimate decision to stop the Xenomorph carried religious undertones, reflecting the monks' themes of redemption and sacrifice.

 
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You also have two interesting scripts that, for various reasons, never made it to production.

One of them is called "The best Alien script never made" , William Gibson's original screenplay for Alien 3, written in 1987.



The second one is considered to be the most unique and ambitious concept in the franchise’s history, and it’s Vincent Ward's draft for Alien 3.



I got the audiobook for the William Gibson alien 3. It was free on audible with the subscription a number of years ago and it's got Lance Hendrickson and Michael Bien, and basically a big audio production with sound effects and stuff. It's pretty great.

The Monk wooden planet deal I've red stuff about, and I guess it would have been interesting but I'm kind of glad it didn't come to fruition.

I know I complain about it all the time but I think the Blomkampf movie would have also been so great.

Hey at least we can go back and enjoy the comic books.
 
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I'll get the audiobook for the William Gibson alien 3. It was free on audible with the subscription a number of years ago and it's got Lance Hendrickson and Michael Bien, and basically a big audio production with sound effects and stuff. It's pretty great.

The Monk wooden planet deal I've red stuff about, and I guess it would have been interesting but I'm kind of glad it didn't come to fruition.

I know I complain about it all the time but I think the Blomkampf movie would have also been so great.

Hey at least we can go back and enjoy the comic books.
Some elements from Ward's script, such as the isolated setting, did make it into the final film, but as we know, the setting was reworked, and the monastery was replaced with a prison colony instead. Ward's philosophical and spiritual themes were scrapped in favor of a darker, more gritty tone. Also, most articles I’ve read regarding the Ward script claim it to be a wooden planet, but I think they scrapped that idea, feeling it to be a bit outlandish, and instead went with the wooden monastery-like structure on a remote planet.
 
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It really sounds like they did take a lot from that concept in Alien 3 with the prisoners anyway

Damn you just posted that too haha

remember they end up trying to trap the xeno in the third one during the end, and Ripley sacrfices herself, the xeno is a dog/cow depending on the cut your watching etc
 
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I'm not trying to be coy, but I don't understand what's being asked of me
I think he's asking if you were rooting for the aliens and the newest film versus the retarded colonist kids.

If you haven't seen the movie yet I suggest not bothering. I didn't care who got mauled, and all the Gen z characters are pretty damn forgettable.