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Alien: Romulus (2024)
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Dude, you seem like a good guy from migrating to our den of scum and villainy, but that's probably one of the most retarded takes I've heard about Alien, and I'm a doctor.
Am I going to have to write you a prescription to watch the appropriate films and in the appropriate order?
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sneak them onto Earth (ship arrives some time after Aliens 2). Could be a better beginning to the Earth War than the comics. The fucking Earth War is what they've been edging toward for the last 50 fuckin years, lets get on with it already.
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Yeah I could see that except they broke what I thought to be cannon, which was the comics, by not continuing the story of Hicks, Newt, and Ripley. I also like the idea of the queen mother or whatever it was called in a comics where she's got a psychic link to any of the alien queens or hives. If I'm not mistaken that was the whole point of the earth war was going and killing her, that way the aliens weren't organized and they could start cleansing everything.
That's when you started getting some really interesting stuff like genocide and labyrinth, and even stop like the colonial Marines series comics wise. I don't believe I ever got the last two issues of colonial Marines though, but it had the weird human alien hybrid cult people.
I just think anything with the black goo and the engineers is retarded at this point. So I haven't watched this movie but once it's 5 or $6 to rent, I will watch it and I'm sure I will come back here and bitch about it...
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The switch to them being illegal scrappers makes actual sense, but the big thing is removing the nostalgia bait and black goo.
The engineers get even dumber when you read things that Ridley Scott was thinking like why David bombed the engineers.
If there's anything to take away from it all, it's that his idea was that the engineers are pissed at humans because Jesus was an engineer... yeah.
“I say, ‘Narrow it down to something very simple and brief — tell me the film in two sentences,’ ” says the renowned and prolific British director of such films as Blade Runner, Alien and Napoleon. “You should light the idea up, and within that you’ve got to have a fuse — a time bomb. When you just have [characters] doing something for something’s sake, that’s dangerous.”Scott also revealed he’s developing a new Alien movie for 20th in the wake of Romulus’ success, plus a Battle of Britainfilm being written by Joe Penhall, as well as the previously announced thriller Bomb from Kevin McMullin.
Inside Ridley Scott’s Producing Empire: “Tell Me the Film in Two Sentences”
Behind the scenes of his production company Scott Free: How the iconic director picks his projects, and his one real business regret.www.hollywoodreporter.com
Well, that explains a lot.
I'm not the biggest Alien 3 fan out there, but I'll at least give it due credit for some of its iconic scenes, and I'd rather keep Alien 3 and Resurrection over Ridley Scott's brain rot ideas at this point.
As for a Prometheus/Covenant follow up, I can't even remember how the latter ended, nor do I care anymore. I don't even think that the overarching premise would be so bad if it weren't for how they're connected to Alien and try retroactively explain everything in the dumbest ways possible.
The characters are outright hate-able across the board with a bunch of paper cutouts whose only redeeming quality is being so forgettable next to the other knuckle-dragging dumbfucks. I don't even care one bit for their Ripley from wish.com with the weird face, which is exacerbated by how dirty they did Noomi Rapace's character who was at least a likeable protagonist and a motive that fit the whatever-the-fuck Prometheus was supposed to even be.
Covenant also starts right out of the gate committing logic sins, like how easy it was to convince these monkeys to abandon their set plan for a colony ship and scores of unwilling lives to take some dumbass risk because Yeehaw Mcbride heard Country Roads. Then when they reach this uncharted, completely alien planet, they all proceed to fuck off without so much as a face mask, never mind helmets. Why? Did the scans say it was good enough? I'm sure you could scan the Amazon rainforest and they'd say it's totally cool, too, without accounting for how everything there wants to either kill or infect you.
To some people, their 1970s sci-fi* movie is Star Wars. Mine is Alien.
*The screenwriter of Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds has a very apropos quote:
What makes Alien and Aliens so defining and timeless is that they are horror/action-horror and not concerned with the "why" or "how" regarding the xenomorphs or Space Jockey, and instead focused on letting the audience's imagination do the worst.
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The engineers being pissed at humanity for murdering Christ was a horribly ignorant idea.
"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." -Christ
He can spend years writing a script and making a movie, but can't spend 10 minutes reading the gospels. Maybe just make the totally believable claim that they've decided that mankind is too fucking violent to be allowed to spread across the galaxy. Nope, gotta go full-retard.
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The switch to them being illegal scrappers makes actual sense, but the big thing is removing the nostalgia bait and black goo.
The engineers get even dumber when you read things that Ridley Scott was thinking like why David bombed the engineers.
If there's anything to take away from it all, it's that his idea was that the engineers are pissed at humans because Jesus was an engineer... yeah.
“I say, ‘Narrow it down to something very simple and brief — tell me the film in two sentences,’ ” says the renowned and prolific British director of such films as Blade Runner, Alien and Napoleon. “You should light the idea up, and within that you’ve got to have a fuse — a time bomb. When you just have [characters] doing something for something’s sake, that’s dangerous.”
Well, that explains a lot.
I'm not the biggest Alien 3 fan out there, but I'll at least give it due credit for some of its iconic scenes, and I'd rather keep Alien 3 and Resurrection over Ridley Scott's brain rot ideas at this point.
As for a Prometheus/Covenant follow up, I can't even remember how the latter ended, nor do I care anymore. I don't even think that the overarching premise would be so bad if it weren't for how they're connected to Alien and try retroactively explain everything in the dumbest ways possible.
The characters are outright hate-able across the board with a bunch of paper cutouts whose only redeeming quality is being so forgettable next to the other knuckle-dragging dumbfucks. I don't even care one bit for their Ripley from wish.com with the weird face, which is exacerbated by how dirty they did Noomi Rapace's character who was at least a likeable protagonist and a motive that fit the whatever-the-fuck Prometheus was supposed to even be.
Covenant also starts right out of the gate committing logic sins, like how easy it was to convince these monkeys to abandon their set plan for a colony ship and scores of unwilling lives to take some dumbass risk because Yeehaw Mcbride heard Country Roads. Then when they reach this uncharted, completely alien planet, they all proceed to fuck off without so much as a face mask, never mind helmets. Why? Did the scans say it was good enough? I'm sure you could scan the Amazon rainforest and they'd say it's totally cool, too, without accounting for how everything there wants to either kill or infect you.
To some people, their 1970s sci-fi* movie is Star Wars. Mine is Alien.
*The screenwriter of Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds has a very apropos quote:
What makes Alien and Aliens so defining and timeless is that they are horror/action-horror and not concerned with the "why" or "how" regarding the xenomorphs or Space Jockey, and instead focused on letting the audience's imagination do the worst.
Dude I think I would try to type a response but I think he covered pretty much all of the bases. I think you were and I are basically on the same ship we're running the whole alien franchise and our love of it. I've never been a tricky or a Star Wars person even though I like both of those, probably Star Trek more than Star Wars, but if I'm going to dark out over anything it's definitely aliens and predator, and it's all because of the goddamn mother fucking of comics, along with the movies obviously.
The comics they were the extended universe and it was just so amazing, and that's why I just get disappointed to see all of these ham-fisted attempts at revitalizing the franchise when there was a clear and easy blueprint staring them in the face. Would have been super simple and it would have been wonderful. You could have made a goddamn television game of thrones type series and people would have eaten it up had you just follow the goddamn 12 comics after aliens.
I know you know what I'm talking about though.
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Yeah, I just love the hell out of Aliens and Predator. I mean, I remember in my formative years as a small child who was waaaaay too young to accidentally walk into the other room where my family was watching Alien right in the middle of the chestburster scene, but of all the things that should have scarred me, it never did. It was when I was a little bit older that I caught Alien Resurrection and it sparked my interest, getting me to watch the rest of the films, along with Predator 1 and 2.
Dude I think I would try to type a response but I think he covered pretty much all of the bases. I think you were and I are basically on the same ship we're running the whole alien franchise and our love of it. I've never been a tricky or a Star Wars person even though I like both of those, probably Star Trek more than Star Wars, but if I'm going to dark out over anything it's definitely aliens and predator, and it's all because of the goddamn mother fucking of comics, along with the movies obviously.
The comics they were the extended universe and it was just so amazing, and that's why I just get disappointed to see all of these ham-fisted attempts at revitalizing the franchise when there was a clear and easy blueprint staring them in the face. Would have been super simple and it would have been wonderful. You could have made a goddamn television game of thrones type series and people would have eaten it up had you just follow the goddamn 12 comics after aliens.
I know you know what I'm talking about though.
In fact, probably one of my first introductions to game modding was Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds (basically Ages of Kings with a Star Wars skin) and the Aliens and Predator mods.
Anyway, for all of the sins that Prometheus committed, Covenant doubled down on all of them to propel the franchise into a self-indulgent mess that just gets worse because Ridley and his sycophants keep trying to expand upon his stupid, stupid ideas that quite obviously belong to a completely different franchise that he didn't get the chance to make about Androids and playing god or whatever.
There was always an allure of mystery behind the xenomorphs, but we also gained somewhat of an understanding as to how their lifecycle played out and how they might behave (e.g. the xenomorph in Alien 3 letting Ripley go because, turns out, she was incubating a chestburster, or even a facehugger + predator = predalien). Now it's anything goes so long as the plot and run time demands it, consistency be damned; you can waterboard yourself in black goo to turn into a derp mutant, snort xenomorph mushrooms, or, fuck it, give birth to an anorexic engineer with a tail.
I'd rather that they just allow these properties to lie instead of trying to pull some "return to form" out of their non-magical asses that they're wearing as a hat, especially when said properties are now under Disney because I have less than zero faith in them not making all of the wrong decisions humanely possible like they were the crew of the next movie.
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I have made two terrible opening night movie going decisions.
Fire Down Below with Steven Seagal and Last Jedi.
I’d rather watch a Fire down below followed by a Covenant 24 hour marathon strapped to a Clockwork orange chair while being cowprodded in the balls repeatedly than watch Last Jedi for 5 minutes.
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Haha, I was reading the post that I had made that you quoted, and I'm like God damn my talk to text is pretty bad but I don't remember ever typing that.I have made two terrible opening night movie going decisions.
Fire Down Below with Steven Seagal and Last Jedi.
I’d rather watch a Fire down below and Covenant 24 hour marathon strapped to a Clockwork orange chair while by being cowprodded in the balls repeatedly than watch Last Jedi for 5 minutes.
Had go back and read the original post to realize you were making a joke. I thought God damn maybe I had a couple glasses of whiskey that night.
Also think watching old Steven seagal movies are probably better than the current Alien fare. At least the Steven seagal stuff is fun and you can laugh out of, not that you can't laugh at Prometheus, but the new films just aren't fun movies.
I don't believe I need to explain my position on any of the new Star Wars stuff, if you catch my drift.
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One of my top movie going experiences was watching that with
Vonpol
(rip). We fucking laughed and barked out jokes the entire movie.Another award winner is Next of Kin with Swayze. 1999
Vonpol
right at the credits hit eject on the VHS held it up high and made a “thumbs up” fist and broke it in two.hilariously bad movies are great
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I remember watching next of Kin with my dad. If I remember correctly it's got Liam Neeson playing a good old boy.One of my top movie going experiences was watching that with
Another award winner is Next of Kin with Swayze. 1999
hilariously bad movies are great
St. Swayze, patron saint of bouncers, it's one of the only celebrities I've ever met in real life. If you don't know of it check out Steel Dawn, that's a fun movie.
I did just rewatch Red Dawn the other day prior to the election, go figure, and I'm confident it's infinitely better than this new alien turd.
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Speaking of the Alien franchise, this is one instance where studio executives interfering actually saved the original movie.
Even ALIENS were in danger with bad advice from Steven Spielberg, suggesting flipping the script in the Alien sequel and making the Xenomorph the hero...
Even ALIENS were in danger with bad advice from Steven Spielberg, suggesting flipping the script in the Alien sequel and making the Xenomorph the hero...
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I was talking about the first {1979) and second movie (1986) in the franchise, Terminator 2 is from 1991.
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