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That woman had a baby and we all know that in cases of legitimate rape a woman's body has ways of shutting that down.
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Well, they did...that's how this whole thing happened right? Why they didn't sooner and/or weren't more successful I don't know. I think I read some stuff about other neighbors claimed to have heard screaming or them trying to get out in the past? I don't fully trust a bunch of ghetto people telling stories after the fact though, too easy to want to make shit up to try getting on the publicity bandwagon. Plus the media is terrible about sourcing and verifying the crap they repeat now.
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She may not be smart, but she's cute. I'd totally lock her up in my dungeon for 10 years... If she's into that kind of thing.
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Well, there was one incident a few years back where one of the neighbors saw a woman holding a baby and pounding on the window. Cops were called and came to the house, pounded on the door 7 or 8 times and then left when no one answered (have to assume she wasn't at the window when the cops got there, dude was probably home and taking a shit or something which gave her an opening to try to get help).
Also, according to the reports coming out today he had a full fledged soundproof rape dungeon in his basement, and kept them chained up most of the time. All the new shit that came out today is pretty awful. He got at least one of them pregnant 5 times, and forced her to have 5 miscarriages by starving her and beating her stomach. He gave them cake and a good meal one day of the year - the anniversary of their abduction.
This just keeps getting worse and worse the more we find out. Fuck.
Anyways, the Ohio prosecutor is probably seeking the death penalty for this dude now, the fact that he forced miscarriages falls under their murder statute. Not confirmed but they said today they're looking into it.
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It's stockholm syndrome right? He had them in the basement for so long they didn't know what to do.
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No, that is in no way, shape, or form Stockholm syndrome. My guess is they tried a few times and most likely got very very severe beatings or some terrible punishment and probably thought they would be killed if they tried to escape, but failed.
Also, these girls were pretty young when abducted so they have to have some seriously fucked up mental problems from this.
Please let him get the death penalty or Jeffrey Dahmer'd in prison.
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Dalien
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Yeah, if they had Stockholm syndrome they would be trying to justify and defend the shit he did, which they're not. When you read about Stockholm cases you see shit like the the captive going to the mall with their kidnapper and not making any attempt to leave; these 3 girls would've (and eventually did, this week) gotten the hell away at the first chance. They wanted out the whole time and never "bonded" with him or any of that shit.
The girls are not the only ones that will be fucked up, the 6-year old is going to be too. I know I don't remember shit from when I was 6, but according to what my mom (psychology professor) said today ages 1-6 are where most of your personality is burned into your sub-conscious.
He will get Dahmer'd easily if he is not segregated from general prison pop. Even dudes doing life for murder would consider what this guy did as some fucked up, repugnant shit.
I'm sure they tried plenty of times. Hard to escape when you're in a soundproof basement and chained up. One might say, surely in 10 years an opportunity had to have arisen if they were vigilant and paying attention, but (1)that's a huge assumption that there was any opportunity and (2)everyone eventually would succumb tolearned helplessness
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Dude left to get McDonalds (seriously, that's where they arrested him and his two brothers). Either he left her unchained or she broke free somehow, nobody knows yet but I'm sure we'll get more of the story soon. They released the two brothers yesterday and said they aren't charging them with anything, so I guess they're satisfied that they didn't know about all this shit.
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yeah. fucked up for life.
The whole "fate worse then death" argument in the abortion thread. There is no coming back from something like this. Even surviving. The possible girl or two that died in there, horrific beyond imagining. But even these that got out. Their lives are forever ruined. They will never get over this really.
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Not only learned helplessness but also youth.
Maybe if he'd grabbed grown women or even late adolescents there would be some sort of reasonable expectation that after a period of time they could have found some way to escape the situation. But he grabbed girls. It wouldn't have been any different if he had grabbed boys.
If you think that you could have escaped at 10-13 years old you have a very distorted and incorrect view of your 10-13 year old self. You would have sat there and cried and waited for someone to rescue you.
Maybe if he'd grabbed grown women or even late adolescents there would be some sort of reasonable expectation that after a period of time they could have found some way to escape the situation. But he grabbed girls. It wouldn't have been any different if he had grabbed boys.
If you think that you could have escaped at 10-13 years old you have a very distorted and incorrect view of your 10-13 year old self. You would have sat there and cried and waited for someone to rescue you.
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There was some comic who did a bit on how we only remember the blonde haired blue eyed girls. He then proved his point by talking about Van der Sloot(whatever) and that Aruba case. We all remember Natalie Halloway, but can anyone remember the name of the Hispanic girl he was actually arrested for killing? Dead silence.