Arkk's Weight Lifting / Fitness Thread

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Dabamf_sl

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I first saw the shakeweight on South Park and thought it was a completely made up piece of exercise equipment. They obviously made it up because it's so absurd that no one would actually make a real piece of exercise equipment like that. It was so far fetched that I actually thought that episode was a little preposterous because it was making a 21 minute joke about a made up piece of equipment.

Then I found it out was real
 

Springbok

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Ya Neki bro, just start with a moderate lifting program and go from there. If you don't have gym access, torrent Insanity/P90X and do them religiously. Won't get you the body of your dreams, but they are quick/easy and I saw noticeable differences when doing both programs.

Finally hit 205 BP (working sets). Still don't know what my max is, but don't really know how to gauge that either /shrug. Chest has really, really filled out past 10 weeks after focusing on different ranges of motion/grips. Been in a terrible mood last month cutting (I miss you rice/pasta) but down to around 10% BF and looking more shredded than I've ever been in my life. Cutting out fruits, dairy, bread and stuff is really fucking gay and I'm not sure I plan on doing it again.

Going to go fucking wild this weekend and drink/eat like a madman. Vegas baby, Vegas.
 

Itlan

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For one rep max just warm up with 135 and then go to 205, do 1, then continually increase. Or, if you're feeling like a badass, slap that shit up to 275 and just fucking GO!
 

Brahma

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For one rep max just warm up with 135 and then go to 205, do 1, then continually increase. Or, if you're feeling like a badass, slap that shit up to 275 and just fucking GO!
NO. You will pull something. Or rip a pec.

Do whatever you think your max bench is for 50% of that weight. Do like 8 reps. Add like 10% do 5 reps. Add another 10% do 3 reps etc. Until you get to 1 rep while all along adding weight. The percentages aren't exact, just use an estimate. I'm sure you get it. But do NOT have a huge jump in weight from one set to the next.

The trick is to WAIT like 2-3 minutes or so between early sets. Like 10-15 minutes on those 1 rep sets. Do not go right back into a set unless you have waited like 5+ minutes later in your sets. You need to recover. This sounds like a lot of reps and sets...it's not because of the recovery time between sets.

Get a spotter who will NOT yank the weight off you on those latter sets also. You are trying to build up gradually.

That's how you find your max. Trust me this works.
 

Neki

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Yeah, I was trolling with my last post heh. But to prove how many people want to get fit without putting in the effort -The Shake Weight Hits $40 Million In Sales. At $20 a pop, that's2 Millionin sales. idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg

I am relatively new to lifting since I decided to change my lifestyle since the beginning of 2012. I am 5"8 and used to weigh 210lbs so yeah, it wasn't good. Spent 6 months at the beginning doing just cardio to get some fitness and has since progressed onto primarily lifting. I am now hovering around 170lb trying to cut down on my bodyfat at the moment (damn this bellyfat). Progress has slowed down for me recently [like 1/2lb per week) so I decided to incorporate more cardio into my routine and asked on the weightloss thread about running endurance since it has regressed big time for me.

Gonna do more HIIT to hopefully stimulate more fat loss from now on and then when I can (hopefully) see the outline of my abs and narrower waistline, to start bulking on the clean foods and going up in weights again.

Do have a few legit questions though:

When on a cut, is there any foods that is not obvious but you should avoid? We know about obvious stuff like the fried stuff, the simple carbs and sodas and such but Springbok mentioned dairy and fruit? I know fruit has sugar and fructose but is it worth to cut the accompanying nutrients and fiber out too? I like blending my morning protein shake with skimmed milk and fruits so it gives me good balance of energy at the start of the day.

More HIIT than steady cardio? At the moment, I am doing about 2 1/2 hrs mixture of cardio (rope climbing, rowing, elliptical, indoor biking) a week mixed into 5 days of lifting to accelerate fat loss.

Cheers guys!

P.S: Since my journey, I've come to realise that weight loss is actually fucking easy. Just move more and eat less unhealthy shit.Fat losshowever, is fucking difficult and takes hard dedication and willpower.
 

Ossoi

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but Springbok mentioned dairy and fruit? I know fruit has sugar and fructose but is it worth to cut the accompanying nutrients and fiber out too? I like blending my morning protein shake with skimmed milk and fruits so it gives me good balance of energy at the start of the day.

P.S: Since my journey, I've come to realise that weight loss is actually fucking easy. Just move more and eat less unhealthy shit.Fat losshowever, is fucking difficult and takes hard dedication and willpower.
My diet doesn't allow dairy or fruit. Meat + Nuts is optimal breakfast. Restrict protein shakes to post workout only. Eat 1kg-1.2kg of lean meat per day over 5-6 meals accompanied with spinach or kale and I guarantee you will shed body fat. <--- has worked for me.
 

McCheese

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For one rep max just warm up with 135 and then go to 205, do 1, then continually increase. Or, if you're feeling like a badass, slap that shit up to 275 and just fucking GO!
I saw a guy at my gym going for a personal record on his bench press a while ago. He walked up, loaded the fuck out of the bar, and went at it. Unfortunately the genius loaded an extra plate on one side so he lifted it and promptly almost killed himself as it crashed down slant-wise on him. Good thing he had a spotter.
 

Springbok

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Neki: Not sure its necessary - but my diet was relatively solid before my cut, and cutting out fruits/dairy (I also drank tons of skim milk smoothies) certainly made a difference. However, it leaves you in a completely shit mood. My girlfriend has been walking on eggshells since end of April - Vegas trip is as much for her as it is for me.
 

TecKnoe

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Neki: Not sure its necessary - but my diet was relatively solid before my cut, and cutting out fruits/dairy (I also drank tons of skim milk smoothies) certainly made a difference. However, it leaves you in a completely shit mood. My girlfriend has been walking on eggshells since end of April - Vegas trip is as much for her as it is for me.
how does removing fruits/dairy from your diet make you miserable? i dont eat fruits and i barely drink milk or fuck with any dairy and im not pissed off all the time.
 
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Yeah, I was trolling with my last post heh. But to prove how many people want to get fit without putting in the effort -The Shake Weight Hits $40 Million In Sales. At $20 a pop, that's2 Millionin sales. idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg

I am relatively new to lifting since I decided to change my lifestyle since the beginning of 2012. I am 5"8 and used to weigh 210lbs so yeah, it wasn't good. Spent 6 months at the beginning doing just cardio to get some fitness and has since progressed onto primarily lifting. I am now hovering around 170lb trying to cut down on my bodyfat at the moment (damn this bellyfat). Progress has slowed down for me recently [like 1/2lb per week) so I decided to incorporate more cardio into my routine and asked on the weightloss thread about running endurance since it has regressed big time for me.

Gonna do more HIIT to hopefully stimulate more fat loss from now on and then when I can (hopefully) see the outline of my abs and narrower waistline, to start bulking on the clean foods and going up in weights again.

Do have a few legit questions though:

When on a cut, is there any foods that is not obvious but you should avoid? We know about obvious stuff like the fried stuff, the simple carbs and sodas and such but Springbok mentioned dairy and fruit? I know fruit has sugar and fructose but is it worth to cut the accompanying nutrients and fiber out too? I like blending my morning protein shake with skimmed milk and fruits so it gives me good balance of energy at the start of the day.

More HIIT than steady cardio? At the moment, I am doing about 2 1/2 hrs mixture of cardio (rope climbing, rowing, elliptical, indoor biking) a week mixed into 5 days of lifting to accelerate fat loss.

Cheers guys!

P.S: Since my journey, I've come to realise that weight loss is actually fucking easy. Just move more and eat less unhealthy shit.Fat losshowever, is fucking difficult and takes hard dedication and willpower.
If you are going to eat fruit at all, morning or post workout is probably the time to do it. I don't pay attention to shit like that though, and plenty of people got ripped before Paleo acted like wheat bread and milk is what makes you fat. I've been making a shake with unsweetened almond milk, a cup of frozen berries, a banana and whey isolate for like 4 years every morning. I'm still alive.

The cardio thing is hard to quantify really. All HIIT isn't the way to go and neither is all LISS cardio. Properly done HIIT I don't see how people can do it more than once a week and train legs still. Your calorie intake dictates what is doable and what isn't honestly, as well as your goals. Everything has its benefits.
 

Itlan

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NO. You will pull something. Or rip a pec.

Do whatever you think your max bench is for 50% of that weight. Do like 8 reps. Add like 10% do 5 reps. Add another 10% do 3 reps etc. Until you get to 1 rep while all along adding weight. The percentages aren't exact, just use an estimate. I'm sure you get it. But do NOT have a huge jump in weight from one set to the next.

The trick is to WAIT like 2-3 minutes or so between early sets. Like 10-15 minutes on those 1 rep sets. Do not go right back into a set unless you have waited like 5+ minutes later in your sets. You need to recover. This sounds like a lot of reps and sets...it's not because of the recovery time between sets.

Get a spotter who will NOT yank the weight off you on those latter sets also. You are trying to build up gradually.

That's how you find your max. Trust me this works.
FUCK THIS NONSENSE. SLAP THAT WEIGHT ON! PUSH! PUSH! COME ON YOU FUCKING PUSSY PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSH!

As for the fruit thing, idk, I eat fruits all god damn day. Pineapple is so fucking good, no way I can't eat it. Dairy? I use butter for my eggs, but its literally like 1/5 of the "serving size," so it's pretty negligible(20 calories me thinks). I do eat some greek yogurt, or rather drink it in my shakes. Other than that, the occasional glass of milk. I don't think you can just point at fruit and dairy and say "bad!" That's just stupid.
 

Itlan

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I saw a guy at my gym going for a personal record on his bench press a while ago. He walked up, loaded the fuck out of the bar, and went at it. Unfortunately the genius loaded an extra plate on one side so he lifted it and promptly almost killed himself as it crashed down slant-wise on him. Good thing he had a spotter.
Sounds like something I'd do. The other day I did close grip and was wondering why one side felt like 175 and the other felt like 225. I'm a fucking idiot. Two reps in and I was like "FUCK THIS!" Low and behold, extra weight on the right side.
 

Brahma

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Headed to the gym, to see where I stand on my 315 reps!! The magic number is 20. Then I go for my 405 reps in a couple week based off my results.

EDIT: Not even close. did 17, and the last 2 were with a large spot...

Fuck.
 

Noodleface

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It's probably been asked to death here, so I'll apologize. Is there any benefits to lifting at certain times of the day? With work I can either lift at 5AM or 5PM.. not sure which is more ideal? Or if it even matters?
 

McCheese

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It's probably been asked to death here, so I'll apologize. Is there any benefits to lifting at certain times of the day? With work I can either lift at 5AM or 5PM.. not sure which is more ideal? Or if it even matters?
I don't know one way or the other, but I have to imagine that this kind of min-maxing is pointless for the average person. If lifting at a certain time of day does give an advantage, it's only going to matter for the truly hardcore, i.e competitive bodybuilders and power lifters.