Baldur's Gate 3 by Larian Games

Borzak said:

I never played DOS2, or 1 for that matter. Apparently I missed a huge game. Might just play it now while I wait for BG3.

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I only played DOS2 recently, like less than a year ago. I thought it was really good. As in I would put it on par with Baldurs Gate 2, or games like XCom, Civ series etc. That good. Then again I don't play many games these days

Yeah. If you want a challenge, DON'T pick glass cannon. It's like turning on easymode. But you're the one that has to pick it.

And it's hillarious to have a full party (or however many you could get, I forget) with that "Can't stop, can't sleep, the clowns will eat me" meth-addict trait. But... it does trivialize basically the entire game. heh.

TJT said:

It's quite hard to make a game story as compelling as Planescape. But I love both games dearly so its okay. I don't think a story arc between the main character and a companion has ever surpassed Dak'Kon and TNO. That revelation stuns me to this day.

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IMHO nothing in my mind even comes close to Planescape. Usually when I rate my top 10 RPG's of all time, I need to do it in the context of the era it was released. For instance I would put Dungeon Master and Wizardry VI in my top ten of all time, but if I played Wizardry today as say a new release, it would obviously be underwhelming. Planescape could be a new release just today in its original form, and I'd still put it as #1 purely by virtue of its story, brilliant puzzles, and unique world. It's just that fucking good.

I still remember seeing the box at the store and almost not buying it. It had received almost no hype or marketing, the box art was blah, and I didn't know what "Planescape" was, I wanted forgotten realms or whatever. But it was D&D, didn't see anything else that caught my eye, and honestly thought I was setting myself up for some generic experience. About five hours or so later, I basically realized this was pure gaming heroin with a finite supply, and I needed to make it last and enjoy every moment of it. Probably the only game I forced limited myself in playtime to extend out the experience as long as possible, because I didn't want it to end.

Everything about it was brilliant. The character interactions that evolved each NPC's story, Dak'Kon's sword lore, fall from grace-- everything and anything that had to do with story was Epic Tier fantasy writing. There were multiple times where I just sat there gawking at the brilliance of the story-- the Dak'Kon story arc you mention, the reveal with Morte at the tower of skulls-- just fucking brilliant. Throw in the brilliant puzzles with multiple solutions, the tattoos, and the brilliant lore around every single weapon/item in the game, and it's just perfection. Probably the only game where I cried at the end with its amazing finale, staring at the screen unable to accept it was over..

So yeah, I'm a pretty big Planescape fan. Was crushed that the "sequel" sucked so bad.

TJT said:

Lol I bought planescape the same way. I had recently finished BGII and loved it and all I knew about Planescape was that it was infinity engine, it was $10, and it was Forgotten Realms. good enough for me.

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It is a much more cerebral game though and I didn't unlock all the really cool parts until my second playthrough when I understood how many more Wisdom/Intelligence checks this game has compared to Baldur's Gate. When I did tho!

And I will say Sigil is one of the most creative and insanely awesome fantasy lands ever dreamed up.

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“What can change the nature of man” still sends shivers down my spine.

All I can say is if you never played the game with the Modron NPC, that alone is worth the replay just for the banter between him and Morte. I never came across him in my initial playthrough, and only learned about him in spoilers.

Frenzied Wombat said:

Yeah, I mean what does one feel defines the BG series? The paused based semi real time combat? The cast of characters? I can't think of any singular thing that defines the BG series, but personally I preferred the combat system in Divinity2 over BG. To me, the greatest flaw in the BG combat system was a lack of control over "turns". You'd give a guy an order and really couldn't plan/know when it would get executed-- frequently causing spells to be cast too late, or your guy just sitting there because the monster you told him to attack dies a second later. You could mitigate this with auto-pauses, but imho the whole thing felt slightly disconnected. Didn't have this issue in Divinity 2. My biigest gripe about Divinity 2 was they went a little overboard with environmental/spell effect interactions.

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Caliane said:

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i really don't have a problem with the title. i mean, i can understand being upset by it, but i also totally understand why they are using that name. on top of the name recognition, it IS taking place in the same area. even if bg2 didn't even go to baldur's gate, it was connected by story beats. obviously that story is done with but the setting is connected enough that i think it makes sense.

i think baldur's gate should probably be used in similar fashion to star wars as far as naming goes. that might make people less bothered by it

For anyone who didn't spot it, Larian did an AMA on Reddit a day or two ago. Here's a compilation of the info from it.

All classes and subclasses from the PHB will be present in the game, including multiclassing. The story will actually have ties to the previous games beyond simply being set in BG. They're working to make custom characters feel narratively more fleshed out, so they'll hopefully not feel as stripped down as D:OS2 customs could compared to origin characters. And a bunch of other stuff.

Despite this pandemic Swen tweeted today that early access is still scheduled for this year. Can't wait. They probably working from home and aspects of the game that cannot be done at home is worked on by a skeleton crew at Larian HQ.

mkopec said:

Im not sure I like the D&D ruleset for PC games. It makes them clunky with shit like sleeping and resting to reset your spells and shit. It might work well for tabletop, but I hate shit like this in PC video games. I liked the way Sin games handled that way better. With AP and turn based cool downs. I rememebr hating that about the original BG games back in the day. But well see. Im still excited for this game seeing that reveal.

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Was what I liked about Pillars 2 was that they made spells and such a per-fight thing.

I love it too. Just recently gotten back into D&D and then game has changed alot since I last played it. Paladins no longer need to be lawful good? Hell yeah.

Larian is going to be showing BG3 again at the Guerilla Collective in early June. Hopefully we'll get some concrete information about early access.

cantrips make a huge difference, i think, so you're not having to rest every other fight. before, a caster who wasn't using their best spells were basically just sub-par archers, but since cantrips do pretty decent damage and scale with your level the same way a fighter's attacks do, it's okay to be judicious with your spells