Baldur's Gate 3 by Larian Games

The trick is, don't play forgotten realms! No drow, no issue! What you really want is dark sun, where the elves are supreme sand joggers

So what’s the consensus is this league better than crucible? Was sanctum implementation done well?

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The trick is, don't play forgotten realms! No drow, no issue! What you really want is dark sun, where the elves are supreme sand joggers

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When Dark Sun first came out I pictured the elves as being a population of the most annoying 'running club' / cross-country surfer bros. They were pretty detestable

Qhue said:

When Dark Sun first came out I pictured the elves as being a population of the most annoying 'running club' / cross-country surfer bros. They were pretty detestable

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They are meant to be theiving jerks who steal ad a lifestyle then run. So pefrct

Burns said:

So, you are trying to figure out how a bunch of women, that are given powers by their ebil spider loving god, can dominate men who don't receive said powers or, if they are born with talents, are killed as children unless they somehow demonstrate their subservience?

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So canonically I am being suppressed magically, and my stats would reflect that if they were lore based?

So here I was walking around making everyone scared of me with all the Drow dialogue, but really I'm just the Cuck of the Underdark?

Sigh, if if I recruit the Dark Elf she's going to walk all over me isn't she?

For my Tactician play-through I rerolled Laezel as a Paladin and it really works well with her whole 'holier than thou' attitude. I tried making Gale a Sorcerer, but it turns out that Wizards are just plain better than Sorcerers when you can swap out spells at any time out-of-combat. Well that and Evocation Wizard in particular has the most effective sort of 'anti friendly fire' metamagic built in.

Voyce said:

So canonically I am being suppressed magically, and my stats would reflect that if they were lore based?

So here I was walking around making everyone scared of me with all the Drow dialogue, but really I'm just the Cuck of the Underdark?

Sigh, if if I recruit the Dark Elf she's going to walk all over me isn't she?

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If you are a Loth male drow, then you would have been squid-napped from your second class citizen life, however that happened. Male Loth drow were still slavers and were of a much higher station to actual slaves of other races; a.k.a. they would have been considered "masters." They are just second to the chosen of Loth, who happen to be women. Think of the society as a caste system, like India. With chosen of Loth at the top, then noble women, then spiders, then noble men, then regular women, then regular men, then pets, then slaves.

Second, there would be no need to suppress their stats. If any males (or females not chosen by Loth) were to rise up, they would get cleric/wizard spells to the face. No one can stand up to high level clerics and wizards, outside of powerful creatures like dragons, demons, Illithid, etc.

The vast majority of people in DnD are supposed to be level 1, I believe. So even a level 5 to 10 spell caster is going to destroy the regular tradesmen and city folk.

Also, the previous 3.5e games with dark elf areas has them as a very backstabby society, where the nobles are all trying to take power from each other and the males play into it, just as much as the women.

>The vast majority of people in DnD are supposed to be level 1, I believe. So even a level 5 to 10 spell caster is going to destroy the regular tradesmen and city folk.

Leveling is like, just getting better at something, if I do something enough times then I've leveled right, so if you subjugate something from birth, and cull the feral, you'll breed complacent less willful more dependent creatures, that could theoretically level up in whatever pursuit you've breed them to be reliably good at.

That's animal husbandry, if you intentionally subjugate over generations you get your work horses and your beasts of burden, but not self sufficiency.

If you don't, you'll have large break away casts, which apparently do exist, but apparently not in this game (Edit: Other then what sounds like good guy Dark Elves).

it's just a simple thing there can't be two equals, while one isn't equal - something has leverage over the other.

D&D Dark Elves just seem like some guys domination fantasy without recognizing the long term consequences.

toward the end of act 3

Qhue said:

For my Tactician play-through I rerolled Laezel as a Paladin and it really works well with her whole 'holier than thou' attitude. I tried making Gale a Sorcerer, but it turns out that Wizards are just plain better than Sorcerers when you can swap out spells at any time out-of-combat. Well that and Evocation Wizard in particular has the most effective sort of 'anti friendly fire' metamagic built in.

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Sorcerers (Storm + Tempest Cleric or Draconic + Warlock) are gods though. So good that I run Shadowheart as the cleric version and Wyll as the warlock version. Wizard is just meh by comparison. It all comes down to the main stat; cha is extremely versatile while int has basically nothing going for it.

Plus you can always take a level of wizard if you want and get slots for rituals and other random crap that doesn't actually need high int to be effective.

Probably, the reason why the Act 3 memory leak hasn't been a bigger deal just yet, is that only 14.6% of people have even made it to Act 3.

It does get bad, even with a high-end machine. I've just been quitting out and restarting every few hours and it remedies the situation well enough. I'll take an issue like that over crash bugs, of which I've had zero in 73 hours played.

Kirun said:

A character so dumb he barely speaks, yet is able to masterfully navigate a battlefield and perform a Kobayashi Maru.

RP fail.

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More like run up to the baddie and point blank fireball. Int 5 is like retarded.

Voyce said:

>The vast majority of people in DnD are supposed to be level 1, I believe. So even a level 5 to 10 spell caster is going to destroy the regular tradesmen and city folk.

Leveling is like, just getting better at something, if I do something enough times then I've leveled right, so if you subjugate something from birth, and cull the feral, you'll breed complacent less willful more dependent creatures, that could theoretically level up in whatever pursuit you've breed them to be reliably good at.

That's animal husbandry, if you intentionally subjugate over generations you get your work horses and your beasts of burden, but not self sufficiency.

If you don't, you'll have large break away casts, which apparently do exist, but apparently not in this game (Edit: Other then what sounds like good guy Dark Elves).

it's just a simple thing there can't be two equals, while one isn't equal - something has leverage over the other.

D&D Dark Elves just seem like some guys domination fantasy without recognizing the long term consequences.

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I don't think Farmers, Millers, Butchers, and woodworkers are leveling up and getting more hp/combat abilities in DnD.

For all the other stuff, it's a world full of magic. Plenty of magic to keep people in line without "subjugating" them like slaves.

If you're set on trying to game this out like it's real life: 99% of violent/ambitious males were kept in line through violence or the threat of it, throughout history. Even if they joined the various military/war bands, they were still kept in line through the threat of violence. Are you a work horse and beast of burden?

In Loth Drow society, the women hold the ability to commit the most violence, due to all the fucking magic, therefore they are able to hold everyone else in line. It's not that hard to understand.

Burns said:

I don't think Farmers, Millers, Butchers, and woodworkers are leveling up and getting more hp/combat abilities in DnD.

For all the other stuff, it's a world full of magic. Plenty of magic to keep people in line without "subjugating" them like slaves.

If your set on trying to game this out like it's real life: 99% of violent/ambitious males were kept in line through violence or the threat of it, throughout history. Even if they joined the various military/war bands, they were still kept in line through the threat of violence. Are you a work horse and beast of burden?

In Loth Drow society, the women hold the ability to commit the most violence, due to all the fucking magic, therefore they are able to hold everyone else in line. It's not that hard to understand.

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Not sure how it is done in 5e, but civilians usually get like 1d4 HP. They aren't actual classes.

Kirun said:

I probably wouldn't even let a char with INT 5 be a caster, TBH. The player would have to have a REALLY compelling reason on why the fuck he isn't just basically perma-silenced.

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Well, a sorcerer could run on feelings, where their "blood" knows the magic words and they manifest themselves through high stress moments, like combat. After combat, the idiot sorc wouldn't even remember what he said or how he cast it. It would mean the character couldn't do magic outside of combat though, which would be a pretty big handicap for the party. Dunno how you would creatively handle spell components, or is that just a wizard thing?