Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
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This movie started with a guaranteed 500 million base. So this actually just a 200 million dollar movie as of now when Holy Wood was expecting at least another 500 million for a combined billion dollar minimum. The bench mark for this movie is Avengers and Batman and Superman actually both have higher name recognition then any of the Avengers. A green eye shades type in Holy Wood would not have been far out of line in expecting this movie to maybe even out perform the Avengers.
Shonuff
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One of the movie analysts argued that this was a stronger brand than Jurassic World, and it should have surpassed that (it did 1.76B). But the movie was so bad that it may only do half of that.
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Even if it was a good movie, I'm not sure it would have surpassed JW. The darkness of BvS would have kept some kids away by their parents (though you could argue a good BvS film wouldn't be so dark so it wouldn't have that problem).
Phazael
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I think the internet hate machine jumped on this one a little too hard, likely due to the potential here. I think this movie merits a 6.5 to 7 out of ten; i.e. worth seeing once in the theater. The wife and I liked it more than JW, Age of Ultron, or Ant Man. Being a DC nerd I got a lot of the references in the dream sequences, but their certainly could have been less of them. WW and Lex were terrible, both horribly miscast. The ending was like sitting through Return of the King again. The saddest part, and why I think its getting so much nerd hate, is that a few changes would have made this a top tier movie.
1) Lex- If you have a cold calculating delivery (ala Spacey and Brown's portrayal) of Luthor using the exact same lines, the movie improves almost 50% right there. This socially awkward millennial Lex is the single worst choice they made in the movie.
2) Editing- Trim the dream sequences down a bunch, especially all the origin story rehash shit. Cut the ending way back and focus on the Batman/WW exchange at the end. The post battle shit just dragged way too fucking long. A lot of them were littered with easter eggs only hardcore DC fanboys would even understand, so these should have been kept in the Blu-ray extras and not in the theatrical cut.
3) WW- Ok we are stuck with this pretzel Israeli woman who can't act worth a fuck. Start force feeding her cheeseburgers and steroids until she bulks out some more and get her a god damn acting coach. Its just silly how Bats made Supes look tiny next to him, but he fucking dwarfed this mush mouthed midget wonder woman. Worse still the portrayal of a regal warrior leader was completely abandoned for this low rent Black Widow knockoff. Just so much wrong with how she was handled at every level.
So, in a vaccum, not a bad movie. But it is damn hard to overlook the wasted potential. On the bright side, Old Man Batleck was awesome and I look forward to seeing his solo movies.
1) Lex- If you have a cold calculating delivery (ala Spacey and Brown's portrayal) of Luthor using the exact same lines, the movie improves almost 50% right there. This socially awkward millennial Lex is the single worst choice they made in the movie.
2) Editing- Trim the dream sequences down a bunch, especially all the origin story rehash shit. Cut the ending way back and focus on the Batman/WW exchange at the end. The post battle shit just dragged way too fucking long. A lot of them were littered with easter eggs only hardcore DC fanboys would even understand, so these should have been kept in the Blu-ray extras and not in the theatrical cut.
3) WW- Ok we are stuck with this pretzel Israeli woman who can't act worth a fuck. Start force feeding her cheeseburgers and steroids until she bulks out some more and get her a god damn acting coach. Its just silly how Bats made Supes look tiny next to him, but he fucking dwarfed this mush mouthed midget wonder woman. Worse still the portrayal of a regal warrior leader was completely abandoned for this low rent Black Widow knockoff. Just so much wrong with how she was handled at every level.
So, in a vaccum, not a bad movie. But it is damn hard to overlook the wasted potential. On the bright side, Old Man Batleck was awesome and I look forward to seeing his solo movies.
Shonuff
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Phazael
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Not trolling (never have actually). All of those movies (as well as BvS) were decent, just not great. Man of Steel, otoh, was a god awful movie. Maybe I just went into this with extremely low expectations, as opposed to your batman induced hardon ruining it for you.
Shonuff
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Rotten Tomato Score:
Jurassic World: 71%
Age of Ultron: 75
Ant Man: 80
Man of Steel: 56
Batman vs Superman: 29
What was your point again?
Just everything that involved Lex in this movie was stupid. Can the makers PLEASE stop reusing this character. Maybe I am the only one but I am sick of seeing Lex as the main villain.
I liked Affleck as Batman, was a bit surprised by that. I am willing to give Wonder Woman the benefit of the doubt, so kind of undecided there.
I did not mind the brief look at Aquaman, not so sure on Flash though. And Cyborg looks like an origin out of the comic book (or one of them) which I didn't mind.
I don't mind the obscure references in movies of this type, they do make it more interesting.
But they need to be subtle and non-invasive on the story line (example when Magneto re-claims his helmet there are other items on display as well). But when it is a sequence involving some yellow, red and green dude yelling at you via a dimensional hole/rift. That is just going to confuse a lot of people, and make the movie more for the comic fan over the general public. Which I think is bad, a good movie should be approachable by all.
Why the makers did not choose to go a more obvious route plot wise. Have minions of Darkseid be the trigger that forms the Justice League, so that we could get a series of movies happening. The Justice League, Miracle/Barda, Darkseid and his Underlings and throw in New Gods at some later point. There is a lot of content to draw upon for making a series of movies with the Justice League vs Darkseid already. Not saying this is the best idea, but it was better than what we got.
All in all a 5 out of 10 movie for me. It seemed like it was a movie that didn't live up to its potential.
I liked Affleck as Batman, was a bit surprised by that. I am willing to give Wonder Woman the benefit of the doubt, so kind of undecided there.
I did not mind the brief look at Aquaman, not so sure on Flash though. And Cyborg looks like an origin out of the comic book (or one of them) which I didn't mind.
I don't mind the obscure references in movies of this type, they do make it more interesting.
But they need to be subtle and non-invasive on the story line (example when Magneto re-claims his helmet there are other items on display as well). But when it is a sequence involving some yellow, red and green dude yelling at you via a dimensional hole/rift. That is just going to confuse a lot of people, and make the movie more for the comic fan over the general public. Which I think is bad, a good movie should be approachable by all.
Why the makers did not choose to go a more obvious route plot wise. Have minions of Darkseid be the trigger that forms the Justice League, so that we could get a series of movies happening. The Justice League, Miracle/Barda, Darkseid and his Underlings and throw in New Gods at some later point. There is a lot of content to draw upon for making a series of movies with the Justice League vs Darkseid already. Not saying this is the best idea, but it was better than what we got.
All in all a 5 out of 10 movie for me. It seemed like it was a movie that didn't live up to its potential.
Phazael
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Try again. I cited several examples of better alternatives to play WW across many threads here. Also, I don't watch GoT and there are plenty of actresses who show off their tatas who actually can act (Heather Graham, Hellen Miren, Eva Greene, Lucy Lawless, ect) and Emilia Clarke is not one of them.
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Phazael
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Watch indie films sometimes. Plus for mainstream movies, From Hell, Boogie Nights, Two Girls and a Guy she was good in. She has been in some bad movies, but those movies have rarely been bad because of her. Killing me Softly is the obvious exception.
Jive Turkey
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I watch independent movies. I've seen those. She is an objectively bad actor. She's been in some good movies and has acted terribly in them.
That doesn't discredit whatever point you were trying to make. It was just a bad example
That doesn't discredit whatever point you were trying to make. It was just a bad example
Quote : "we're not going to take a movie that's supposed to be one thing and turn it into a copycat of something else."
Ironic that a significant part of the movie seemed ripped from Millers original Dark Knight for me, with a dash of 1990s death of Superman.
Took the wife and kids to see it last night. Feels like it was a late decision to make it a tie in to a Justice League movie, so lots of the editing felt disjointed. Don't like Affleck as Bats but he wasn't Daredevil bad. Didn't like Bats shooting and branding people.
Actually thought Wonder Woman finally appearing picked things up slightly and made the last 5 minutes watchable.
4/10
Shonuff
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We'll be talking about Civil War in a few weeks and forget this shitbox of a movie.
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Royal
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Snyder put a 3 hour movie in the can. The studio then came back and had him cut half an hour out of it for financial reasons (longer movie = fewer showings per day). The full version might have still been poorly edited but carving an additional 1/6 of it's run time out couldn't have helped.
DickTrickle
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It looks like it won't even make double its opening weekend. That's a pretty bad multiplier. Ouch.
Snyder was forced to make this shit ball movie in the first place. Originally, he was going to just make a Batman movie with Affleck, which may have actually been pretty good. He had the Superman part forced down his throat because of the backlash from the Man of Steel debacle. Then I guess he (or the studio) decided to go full retard and just make it a Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman/Justice League origins train wreck that it became.