Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

Ambiturner_sl said:

As long as they keep making actual quality movies, like Marvel, then the superhero genre will continue to make a ton of money.

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I agree and I've said the exact same myself before. I don't prescribe to the notion of there being a bubble. I do think it's a protracted trend much like the western genre was for so long. Audiences will eventually move on but the studios themselves are not hapless victims of a fickle market. If they keep putting out movies of sufficient quality they can extend that trend out far longer than it otherwise would have lasted.

The best analogy would definitely be westerns which at the time where very expensive to make.

That genre lasted decades without any real problems so I see the same thing going for Super Hero films.

People that say it's a bubble come off pretty silly since we're going on a decade of well performing box office films here that are increasing in quality not diminishing.

I have no clue why they don't make more westerns btw. They should, people are still seeing Tombstone for the first time every thanksgiving, and loving that film.

I was going to make a post about the "bubble" like 3 times. but kept just trashing it.

there is no bubble. you could argue waves, but even that is barely true.
List of American superhero films - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the truth is, there have been more and more superhero movies, tv, cartoons, nonstop since the 70s. Early years, alot of it was on TV. Made for tv movies, cartoons, and series.
70's and 80 super hero Tv was big. wonder woman, hulk, spiderman, shazam. even real american hero, etc. cartoons with superfriends, spiderman and amazing friends, etc.
Marvel itself was much smaller back then. which explains some of it. They didnt have the power to make real movies. but did have enough to make tv and cartoons.

Even the "downswings" of 84-90 where you have howard the duck, supergirl, swamp thing, superman 4. totally tanking. but at the same time, all those tanking superhero movies, are overwhelmed by the fact they just kept making MORE. And, then Batman comes in 89 and is one of the first major blockbusters.

90's comics themselves were at their all time most popular. teen titans, xmen, etc.
xmen cartoon. ironman, etc.

late 90's also had a drop off in quality, and success. Steel, barb wire, the phantom, darkman 3, the crow 2/3, batman and robin, dredd.
But the volume just kept increasing. All these z listers, and/or knockoffs.

2000 things came back full force in popularity. even 98 with Blade you could argue. but it didn't make a ton. but 2000 was X-men. and unbreakable.
2002 blade 2, spiderman.
2003 daredevil, x2, hulk.

dbl

I agree with the MCU "bubble" if only because of the expectations. Once the core Avengers start leaving things get shaky. I mean, Paul Rudd is really good but I don't care about Ant Man outside of the universe very much. If the rest of the movies stopped and they just pumped out Ant Man movies I'd be uninterested really quickly. Once Thanos is gone and they lose all the actors what happens then? I hate actor changes with a vengeance in most cases so *shrug*. I'll take the next five years with open arms but I just know we will get the lull in between sets of actors and reboots. Hopefully the next wave will be just as good.

Also LoL @ DC.

Went to see civil war today line was a good 300 people long. We maybe in a superhero bubble but I think were just at the beginning of it still. Marvel and DC universes are very deep veins of mostly PG and PG13 material. In the past the technology wasn't able to make many superhero stories effectively without extreme effort. Now the source material and CGI advances have made superheros movies as doable as those westerns were fifty years ago. So Hollywood is going to mine the fuck out of superheros. They have barely got past the origins and are focusing oo only the most popular story arcs. I don't see the superhero train slowing down anytime soon.

When everyone here is saying no not another fucking superhero movie. Instead wanting are favorite story arcs made into movies, then we will be approaching the end of the bubble.

The bubble is going to burst when we get shit like the West Coast Avengers in a movie. When none of the initial run of members are around.

West Coast Avengers:

Mockingbird
War Machine
Thing
Moon Knight
Firebird



Yeesh


Or the Great Lakes Avengers:



Mr. Immortal
Dinah Soar
Big Bertha.
Flatman
Doorman

Double yeesh.

radditsu_sl said:

Or the Great Lakes Avengers:



Mr. Immortal
Dinah Soar
Big Bertha.
Flatman
Doorman

Double yeesh.

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you forgot squirrel girl. it'll make 2 billion world wide.

j00t_sl said:

you forgot squirrel girl. it'll make 2 billion world wide.

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Yeah that would be Great lakes Avengers 2: Age of Squirrel , She came in further in the run and left pretty quickly right?

sure, but technically, so did hulk, yet he's always associated as being an avenger. different, i know. hulk was a founding member but left in like, the second issue? squirrel girl didn't join for quite some time though i don't remember how long she stayed. great lakes avengers has a special place in my heart because i grew up just outside milwaukee

Nope, real character. And she's beaten the entire marvel universe.