Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

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Caliane

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more competition for games.

with games, you can be really picky. only the best of the best.
 

LadyVex_sl

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Movies are generally a 3 hour investment + 8 to 14 bucks depending on stuff. A game is usually much more than that on both fronts so the ratings that one would consider skippable should be different for the two mediums.
Right, so I think I'm just skewed on ratings. Or super stingy on them.
 

Sylas

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So I kinda feel like an idiot, but I just realized that DC Comics is owned by DC Entertainment, which itself is owned by Warner Bros, which of course is owned by Time Warner.

More silly, that this isn't a modern development. They've been owned by the company that bought the company that merged with the company that ended up becoming Time Warner since 1967...

I had always kinda assumed DC comics was just a comic book publishing company, and had licensed their shit to WB, in the same way that Marvel licensed shit out to fox/sony/universal/etc before they were purchased by Disney. I then assumed the movie guys at WB had no faith in the DC brand and also no creativity so kept doing stupid shit on film, bat nipples and emo-wait-gotta-take-a-shit superman, etc.

But nope. The movie guys get their paychecks from the same dude who pays the comic guys, they work down the hall from one another (no, not literally), they are just terrible people or do waaaaay too much cocaine.
 

Enzee

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Right, so I think I'm just skewed on ratings. Or super stingy on them.
Well, and the video game rating industry has been slowly skewed towards high ratings over time. Some people get paid off, or pampered in some way, and that pushes the ratings a little higher then they should be.
A real 1-10 scale should have 5 as an 'average' version of whatever it is rating. A 6/7 is an above average movie, imo, but not great by any means. That's where I, personally, felt BvS was. A movie in a genre that I like, that gets anything above a 5, is something I don't mind watching. I.e. superhero, sci fi and heist movies. I also rarely give out a 10, even things like Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool, which I loved, would get a 9.5 most often.
 

LadyVex_sl

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Well, and the video game rating industry has been slowly skewed towards high ratings over time. Some people get paid off, or pampered in some way, and that pushes the ratings a little higher then they should be.
A real 1-10 scale should have 5 as an 'average' version of whatever it is rating. A 6/7 is an above average movie, imo, but not great by any means. That's where I, personally, felt BvS was. A movie in a genre that I like, that gets anything above a 5, is something I don't mind watching. I.e. superhero, sci fi and heist movies. I also rarely give out a 10, even things like Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool, which I loved, would get a 9.5 most often.
Well, exactly. It's why you don't see anything lower than 5, and why I tend to view anything around the 6.5 area as being bad.

It's just really crazy, all around, that someone can say, this gets a 6.5. Then you read/listen to the review in it's entirety and they don't really have anything positive to say about it.
 

Shonuff

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I loaded up Zombieland, and forgot Jessie Eisenberg was in that. I think that was the last movie I liked him in.
 

Royal

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Art of the Cut with "Batman v Superman" editor, David Brenner

It was a lot to juggle. So the plot lines of a couple characters had to go. These people are currently in the movie but we don't track them, and it's okay. What's kind of fun is that we went back and did an extended cut where we put a lot of this stuff back, and we refined it into the same rhythm as the theatrical release.So what was once a nearly four hour cutwith absolutely everything was ridiculous - ended up being about a three hour cut, once all these added storylines were refined with the fat was cut out.
4 hours ... Jesus Fuckin' Christ.
 

Hoss

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Saw it this weekend. Started laughing uncontrollably when they had the bats lifting him out of the cave in the beginning. I said "Holy shit they didn't waste time jumping the shark,did they?" I was disappointed when it turned out to be a dream. For a moment I thought it was going to be a classically bad Attack of the Killer Tomatoes type movie.

So are we still using spoiler tags? It's almost out of theaters now.
 

Devlin

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I don't put it down to any of the actions of the characters in BvS either, just the way the movie was so fucking disjointed and weird with dream sequences and bizarre unknown characters coming out of PC monitor, they tried to tell 10 stories at the same time and made such a piss poor job of it. There's a huge difference between having a more adult style storyline (Winter Soldier) and this jumbled abomination, too many characters were introduced into a universe that so far had one movie to it's name.

Why the fuck do they want to race Marvel anyway, race them to where exactly?
 

Seananigans

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Ah yes, this supposed bubble. As if fun action-y movies (regardless of sub-genre) have ever been susceptible to such.

In a world where Michael Bay/Transformers can shit out terrible movies and still make money hand over fist, there is no superhero movie bubble.
 

Devlin

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There isn't a bubble, the only reason so many of these movies are currently being made is because honestly we've only just entered a time where they're even feasible to make, the early X-Men movies don't have Iceman because they just didn't have the tech to make him look anything like he's supposed to, hell they still don't.

Imagine what these movies will look like in 20-30 years time.
 

j00t

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it's not an opinion that movie genres can be tied very closely to a specific period of time and then the audience gets burned out of that genre. musicals and westerns are two of the greatest examples.

i think, overall marvel is doing a great job of stemming that tide by having each movie be a subgenre of "The Superhero Flick." Thor 2 was a fantasy film, winter soldier was a spy thriller, ant-man was a heist flick. it's not just "bad guy creates evil plan, good guy learns what it means (or for the sequel, what it REALLY, ACTUALLY means) to be a hero and then stops the evil plan while the bad guy barely escapes."

You can do that and have it be a skeleton outline, but you can bring that in a hundred different ways to the audience without things getting "tired." as long as these people making these stories are doing them out of love for the character and continue to take these stories to creative new ground, i think we're gonna be okay.
 

j00t

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There isn't a bubble, the only reason so many of these movies are currently being made is because honestly we've only just entered a time where they're even feasible to make, the early X-Men movies don't have Iceman because they just didn't have the tech to make him look anything like he's supposed to, hell they still don't.

Imagine what these movies will look like in 20-30 years time.
with any luck, they'll look like a new hope. time is a flat circle, yo
 

Ambiturner

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Ah yes, this supposed bubble. As if fun action-y movies (regardless of sub-genre) have ever been susceptible to such.

In a world where Michael Bay/Transformers can shit out terrible movies and still make money hand over fist, there is no superhero movie bubble.
Pretty much agree with this. As long as they keep making actual quality movies, like Marvel, then the superhero genre will continue to make a ton of money.

It's when they start shoveling non-stop garbage at us that the movies will start bombing and the execs will blame "the bubble" instead of admitting they fucked it up like they always do.