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What about the cylons reincarnating as long as they have a certain ship in the system?
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What about the cylons reincarnating as long as they have a certain ship in the system?
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Any technology that is sufficiently advanced will look like magic to people who don't understand it.
Honestly, the whole deal with being able to pass off fucking robots as humans was pretty damned magical too. Point is, I remember lots of magic and mysticism in this show from the cylons. It did a good job of creating an overpowered enemy.
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That just reminds me of Sting from Lord of the Rings. Instead of glowing blue when Orcs are coming - their dick glows orange when they are literally cumming. Like some basement filmed X rated porno flick.
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Oldbased
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Just be prepared for the anger I had few weeks back.
Their solution to cliff hanging a season 4 ending was just to remove season 4 completely it seems so it now ends on Season 3 which was less of a hang.
I pray for the day Syfy people get tossed out of a airlock for these crimes.
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Siliconemelons
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That is kinda odd… so s4 is just gone? Hehe
It is sad they didn’t “finish” it… but honestly i think they could have ret conned like the last 3 or so episodes and not escalated but concluded… make it some dream and re retcon a few episodes and wrapitupbutton.chapelle.meme
It is sad they didn’t “finish” it… but honestly i think they could have ret conned like the last 3 or so episodes and not escalated but concluded… make it some dream and re retcon a few episodes and wrapitupbutton.chapelle.meme
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This is like the "How does Neo fry the sentinels if it's not a simulation in a simulation?!?!?!?" question as if The One wouldn't have a WiFi radio implanted somewhere in his body with all the other machine parts.
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False, it's called shitty writing/plot. Neo frying the sentinels set up for a really good story and they chose the harder, more retarded path to the shitty ending of that trilogy.
BSG, similarly, never thought ahead about how they could do cool stuff with cool in-universe explanations and went with the vastly more retarded "lol anachronisms" and a confusing ending that tries to hand hold you into understanding that they were always our ancestors!!!?!?!! instead of just really fucking good hints throughout the final season.
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Yeah the mythology stuff of BSG just got worse and worse the longer it went on. Sharon saying "We know more about your religion than you do" during the big two-parter on Kobol in S2 set up a LOT of great stuff they could do, and then it just never worked out.
But "Matrix in a Matrix" is still the dumbest shit ever, a hill I will continue to win on until they shut the internet down for good.
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I like to chalk it up as the show runners only had enough material for a good 2-2.5 seasons worth of a really good show. The problem was it went far past that original good idea.
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Mist
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SyFy kept renewing the show but cut their budget massively.
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OU Ariakas
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I am not saying that "Matrix in a Matrix" is the best storyline ever; I am saying that it was the best, and most coherent, storyline given the ending of the second movie and the only one that wouldn't end up with some retarded LOLMAGIC as the outcome. Telling humans that their subconscious rejected all forms of paradise in the Matrix and a secondary one had to be made where they were destitute victims fighting a losing war in order to accept subjugation is a better story than anything Hollywood has come up with in the last 10 years. Again, not mind blowing and probably a little too edgy, but light years better than what we ended up with.
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BSG is still probably among my top fav TV shows of all time, up there with TNG, DS9, B5, the first two seasons of Twin Peaks and the first five seasons of The X-Files. There is a lot of stuff that was a bit odd, true, but I tied it down to them trying to have some sort of futuristic semi-alien mysticism in it. It never really peeved me off. The final season and finding Earth did feel a bit rushed - but I always attributed it to them having the show cancelled and needing to tie up loose ends in a hurry.
There were also a lot of shit episodes, but again, that comes down to the way Americans make TV shows - needing 24 or so 45 minute episodes per season. That needs a lot of filler material.
The show also had some pretty good characters, many of them with some good character progression. Admiral Adama, great character. The drunken second, another good one with some good development. Lee Adama, solid guy. Gauis, quirky and often difficult to associate with (hate to love and love to hate?) but had some of the best moments in the series. Starbuck, many didn't like her, but I liked her in that good looking tomboy way - no idea WTF she was in the end (cylon, ghost, ??). The female school teacher president - great character that I loved to hate.
Also, one of my go-to goosebump moments in all of TV history is the S4 finale where the trial over Gaius ends, the Cylons jump in as everything is spooled down, you have the four Cylon reveals to the music All Along the Watch Tower, and then Starbuck coming back - all ending with an epic cliff hanger. Amazing.
And yeah, I can see here how it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I think you need to be a bit closed minded to not see many of the good points it has. Definitely a "watch it once" show for Sci-Fi fans.
There were also a lot of shit episodes, but again, that comes down to the way Americans make TV shows - needing 24 or so 45 minute episodes per season. That needs a lot of filler material.
The show also had some pretty good characters, many of them with some good character progression. Admiral Adama, great character. The drunken second, another good one with some good development. Lee Adama, solid guy. Gauis, quirky and often difficult to associate with (hate to love and love to hate?) but had some of the best moments in the series. Starbuck, many didn't like her, but I liked her in that good looking tomboy way - no idea WTF she was in the end (cylon, ghost, ??). The female school teacher president - great character that I loved to hate.
Also, one of my go-to goosebump moments in all of TV history is the S4 finale where the trial over Gaius ends, the Cylons jump in as everything is spooled down, you have the four Cylon reveals to the music All Along the Watch Tower, and then Starbuck coming back - all ending with an epic cliff hanger. Amazing.
And yeah, I can see here how it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I think you need to be a bit closed minded to not see many of the good points it has. Definitely a "watch it once" show for Sci-Fi fans.
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Yeah, if the show was just 4x10 episode seasons, like modern genre dramas, it definitely would have been a lot better.
Then again, no 3 BSG fans can agree who their favorite (and least favorite) characters were, so you'd end up having cut a lot of shit that people liked, particularly in S2 and into the start of S3.
The thing that was great about the first 2.5 seasons was that the show really know how to crank up the dramatic tension when and where it counted. And then between those big moments, it really made you look at things from a lot of different characters' perspectives.
Then again, no 3 BSG fans can agree who their favorite (and least favorite) characters were, so you'd end up having cut a lot of shit that people liked, particularly in S2 and into the start of S3.
The thing that was great about the first 2.5 seasons was that the show really know how to crank up the dramatic tension when and where it counted. And then between those big moments, it really made you look at things from a lot of different characters' perspectives.
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Now I know what the Dredd 2 fanboys feel like.
I hope this never gets another reboot, 8 episodes a season, and full of filler and lectures. I loved BSG, but they already had a habit of getting a little preachy back then.
I hope this never gets another reboot, 8 episodes a season, and full of filler and lectures. I loved BSG, but they already had a habit of getting a little preachy back then.
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Finished my rewatch of this because of the thread bump. It's still good overall. I didn't realize new caprica was only 2/3 episodes. First watch it felt forever for me. Still has same problems it always has but not enough to call it unwatchable.
Would watch again in 5 years.
Would watch again in 5 years.
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