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a_skeleton_03

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I'm not aware of any conservative Republicans who are overly concerned with making sure the Muslim terrorist gets a free lawyer, fair trial, Halal meals, his prayer time, a clean cell, a place to exercise, a copy of the Koran, phone privileges and excellent medical care. Thank god we have the liberals around to watch out for them though!
This conservative is fine with all that. As long as the process is moving along why not give the man some dignity?
 

Azrayne

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I'm not aware of any conservative Republicans who are overly concerned with making sure the Muslim terrorist gets a free lawyer, fair trial, Halal meals, his prayer time, a clean cell, a place to exercise, a copy of the Koran, phone privileges and excellent medical care. Thank god we have the liberals around to watch out for them though!
But rights are meaningless if they stop applying just because you don't like someone or what they did. If rights don't apply to everyone, they aren't rights, just illusions. A situation like this is the ultimate test, and America is failing.
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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I'm not aware of any conservative Republicans who are overly concerned with making sure the Muslim terrorist gets a free lawyer, fair trial, Halal meals, his prayer time, a clean cell, a place to exercise, a copy of the Koran, phone privileges and excellent medical care. Thank god we have the liberals around to watch out for them though!
This is why you should never be part of any decision or discussion, you are quite literally to stupid to understand just how fucking stupid you are.
 

Dabamf_sl

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Hey guys lets have 20 people argue against 1 retard again. Totally owned him lol! amirite?!

Media is unsurprisingly being complete morons about the Miranda thing. Is there any news source that doesn't cater to the knee-jerk rabble rabble crowd, and actually present factual information? I'm lazy and rely on google news feed, but I god damn hate it. "Scientists discover life on another planet!" --> "They report they might have found a planet that could potentially support life." Those kinds of title-->story articles are all over the place and my jimmies get put into maximum overrustle
 

Noodleface

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Who cares if he can talk for a month, dude can write?

I guess this all depends if authorities feel they have evidence that there is a larger immediate threat that he may be involved in here. We really don't know what evidence they've collected at these people's homes or from the trio in New Bedford.
 

Fuse

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Hey guys lets have 20 people argue against 1 retard again. Totally owned him lol! amirite?!

Media is unsurprisingly being complete morons about the Miranda thing. Is there any news source that doesn't cater to the knee-jerk rabble rabble crowd, and actually present factual information? I'm lazy and rely on google news feed, but I god damn hate it. "Scientists discover life on another planet!" --> "They report they might have found a planet that could potentially support life." Those kinds of title-->story articles are all over the place and my jimmies get put into maximum overrustle
The News Hour on PBS, the BBC and Al-Jazeera are generally better than your usual suspects. CNN in particular has become embarrassingly embarrassing.
 

Noodleface

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CNN reporting he may be charged today. What a vague fucking story. He could be charged today or he could not.
 

Loser Araysar

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I doubt when they wrote the constitution they could ever imagine an entire sect of a "religion" blowing up women and children in the name of Allah. I'm guessing they would have included a "fuck them" clause if that was the case.
They probably would have, but most of the country was Christian so they just settled for being Atheists and Deists and outlining Separation of Church and State.
 

Loser Araysar

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Fuck their due process. If you go to Iraq or Afghanistan and blow up a bunch of their women and children, what kind of due process will you be given? He's a terrorist. Fuck him.
You mean like John Walker Lindh, an American fighting alongside with the Taliban who was captured and then sentenced to 25 years in the American penal system?

Dont forget that Whitehat is an American citizen. He is an American, not some foreign combatant.


Anyways, I'm pretty amused at how much Republicans moan and groan about the sacredness of the constitution and then are wiping their ass with it in a heartbeat as soon as it comes to giving the same rights as they have to someone they dont like.
 

a_skeleton_03

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Anyways, I'm pretty amused at how much Republicans moan and groan about the sacredness of the constitution and then are wiping their ass with it in a heartbeat as soon as it comes to giving the same rights as they have to someone they dont like.
Just to be clear the Obama administration has made this call and the Republicans are agreeing with it for all the wrong reasons.
 

khalid

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Just to be clear the Obama administration has made this call and the Republicans are agreeing with it for all the wrong reasons.
What call? That they won't read him Miranda? That isn't taking away any of his constitutional rights, at least not more than they do fairly routinely to "normal" criminals in our justice system.

Not reading him Miranda != treating him like an enemy combatant.
 

Loser Araysar

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They can still read him his miranda rights later before they start questioning him.



if they are treating him as an enemy combatant though, that's just wrong. An American committing a terrorist attack on american soil, might as well start treating every American fundie loon as "enemy combatant". it's idiotic.
 

a_skeleton_03

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What call? That they won't read him Miranda? That isn't taking away any of his constitutional rights, at least not more than they do fairly routinely to "normal" criminals in our justice system.

Not reading him Miranda != treating him like an enemy combatant.
I never said it was. The administration is pursuing it like they are right now and the conservatives are saying it's the right move is all.

A few of us see it for the non issue it is.
 

Famm

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Is that the only issue or are they actually going to detain him as a terrorist instead of charging him as a criminal?
 

Loser Araysar

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if the ultimate call is by Obama, he will be tried as criminal for sure.
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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Just to be clear the Obama administration has made this call and the Republicans are agreeing with it for all the wrong reasons.
You seem to have this backwards, elected officials in the republican party have called for him to be treated like an enemy combatant and not treated like the US citizen he is. There has been no authorization of this request to be granted, if it is granted it will be Obama's call and if he does agree with the republicans on this then he can go fuck himself. As far as the miranda rights go there is good reason for this or at least appears to be good reasons in that we need to know if he was part of a bigger cell etc etc etc.

This isn't one of your normal conversations on this board, you can't put words into Obama's mouth and then argue he has made these actions when it's clearly not the case.
 

Loser Araysar

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This isn't one of your normal conversations on this board, you can't put words into Obama's mouth and then argue he has made these actions when it's clearly not the case.
How will he able to make any posts then? That's his modus operandi 100% of the time.
 

Malice_sl

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Is that the only issue or are they actually going to detain him as a terrorist instead of charging him as a criminal?
I think the biggest issue is a gross misunderstanding of what not reading him the Miranda rights actually means. It just means they didn't verbally read him his rights and ask for the nod of understanding. A lot of people, particularly the idiots on Facebook, are making it out to be like his fifth amendment rights were denied/revoked.