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TecKnoe

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Hard to say, but running someone over while trying to escape the cops should count for manslaughter at the very least, right?
right, but a lawyer would just argue the point he was already dead?

i guess involuntary manslaughter would stick? he didnt run him over with the intent to kill him, im not law smart by any means though.

Either way though the kid is gonna get treatment way to good for him, if hes not given death its just not justified.
life in prison is to good for him, unless hes not in PC then sure throw him in jail and let them molest the fuck out of him for the next 40 years or he just kills himself.
 

Dabamf_sl

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Where are you guys getting the info that he ran over his brother? Was that on the police scanner?

The Miranda thing is really dumb, because the only rational objection that could possibly be made regarding not reading him his rights is a legal expert saying "we may not be able to use his statements in court." That is the only consequence whatsoever. He's still protected by the 5th amendment if he chooses to use it.

It's too bad whitehat lived and blackhat died. It seems pretty likely that blackhat was the leader and the true radical, and whitehat was probably following big brother's lead. 19 year olds may be considered adults, but they are still pretty much all morons. There'd be a lot more to learn, if anything, from blackhat.
 

Merlin_sl

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Wasn't Merlin one of the fucktards who had his panties in a bunch about an american citizen being 'assassinated' by a drone strike? Why is he now ok with the idea of an american citizen being deprived of his constitutional rights?
No I wasn't. I don't give a shit about drone strikes and don't post about them.
And a terrorist is a terrorist. Just because he got his citizenship a year ago means nothing to me. I don't care if he was born here. Once you commit a terrorist act on American soil, you have no rights. Ship his ass to gitmo to hang with his buddies.
 

Loser Araysar

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No I wasn't. I don't give a shit about drone strikes and don't post about them.
And a terrorist is a terrorist. Just because he got his citizenship a year ago means nothing to me. I don't care if he was born here. Once you commit a terrorist act on American soil, you have no rights. Ship his ass to gitmo to hang with his buddies.
plain old murder is OK, terrorism isnt. got it.
 

Gavinmad

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No I wasn't. I don't give a shit about drone strikes and don't post about them.
And a terrorist is a terrorist. Just because he got his citizenship a year ago means nothing to me. I don't care if he was born here. Once you commit a terrorist act on American soil, you have no rights. Ship his ass to gitmo to hang with his buddies.
Yeah who gives a fuck about the constitution when it gets inconvenient.
 

Ignatius

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I doubt they will but I hope he has a public, televised trial.
I dont know about this. I feel similar to how I do about the nut jobs that shoot up the schools, in that the less of a celebrity they are made out to be the better. Let them be obscure.

Public trial for sure though.
 

Vardisk_sl

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right, but a lawyer would just argue the point he was already dead?
I think the scenario that's sticking now was that he ran out of ammunition and ran straight at the cops, they tacked him and were in the process of handcuffing him, when the younger guy drove straight at the whole pile of cops/brother. Cops jumped out of the way and the brother got run over. So it sounds like he was still quite alive, though probably highly wounded since the medical report mentioned gunshots.

i guess involuntary manslaughter would stick? he didnt run him over with the intent to kill him, im not law smart by any means though.
It doesn't matter what the intent was. If you kill someone, intentionally or not, while you were already committed a felony, it's second degree murder. I'm pretty sure that murdering a cop, being involved in a high speed police chase, randomly throwing explosives out onto a street, and then getting involved in a shootout with police, counts as a felony.

If a person kills while committing a felony that is inherently dangerous to human life other than arson, burglary, etc. the person will be found guilty of second degree murder.
 
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dunno why people are making a big deal about miranda. afaik you don't need to read em till you are charging / arresting. I think it's an easy case to make to say atm he is in 'protective custody'.
 

Loser Araysar

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(In my opinion) You lose your constitutional rights when you attempt to murder hundreds of American citizens. So yes, fuck em.
So whats the body count cut off for losing vs. retaining constitutional rights?
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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(In my opinion) You lose your constitutional rights when you attempt to murder hundreds of American citizens. So yes, fuck em.
What if they do it with a gun? Is it only bombs you have a problem with? Or is that they are religious fundamentalist? What if a christian tries to murder 100's of people with a gun?

Just come out and admit your bigotry.
 

Running Dog_sl

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Where are you guys getting the info that he ran over his brother? Was that on the police scanner?

The Miranda thing is really dumb, because the only rational objection that could possibly be made regarding not reading him his rights is a legal expert saying "we may not be able to use his statements in court." That is the only consequence whatsoever. He's still protected by the 5th amendment if he chooses to use it.

It's too bad whitehat lived and blackhat died. It seems pretty likely that blackhat was the leader and the true radical, and whitehat was probably following big brother's lead. 19 year olds may be considered adults, but they are still pretty much all morons. There'd be a lot more to learn, if anything, from blackhat.
From what we've been told of what happened, I think it's unlikely there's a mastermind behind this attack. No-one claimed responsibility and everything about it seems... amateurish. Hell, according to CNN they told the person whose car they jacked that they were the marathon bombers, and having committed a terrorist atrocity a couple of days before, they let the person walk away and call the police and didn't realise he'd left his cellphone in the car so they were being tracked.

It's just a shame the bombs didn't go off while those idiots were making them.
 

khalid

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I doubt they will but I hope he has a public, televised trial.
Really bad idea. Some of these crazies are doing this specifically to try and get publicity for their cause. A public trial would possibly give him a stage to present his grievances and certainly would be a huge spectacle. Let him get a fair trial in private without any circus atmosphere.
 
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kinda wishing they'd do a PPV televised execution with 100% of the proceeds going to the victims.


betcha the reason miranda hasn't been read and formal arrest charges haven't been made because the state and fed prosecutors are working out which is going to try him first and for what. I would think there will easily be a couple hundred charges by the time this heads to trial.


edit- I thought definition of murder / degrees, as well as sentences vary substantially from state to state?
 

chaos

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(In my opinion) You lose your constitutional rights when you attempt to murder hundreds of American citizens. So yes, fuck em.
So that whole "presumption of innocence" thing goes right out the door, right? Just snatch up the first Muslim who Fox News puts at the scene and ship him off to a CIA black site for the rest of his short life? God damn man. Just god damn.