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Lol.
Tyson was amazing. Had Cuz lived long enough to see him thru an entire career he would have been greatest of all time. His skills slowly deteriorated over time for all the wrong reasons.
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I disagree. As a causal fan, the 70's, 80's and 90's were awesome. I don't pretend to have 1% the knowledge of real fans but that time frame was fantastic. Every fight seemed to be an event. You could watch the biggst fights on premium cable without PPV. The fighters had something to offer everyone. Mayweather sucks ass for the caasual but is appreciated by someone like yourself. Some people might have complained about Tyson destroying people in 10 seconds but they always came back. I personally have no interest in watching another Mayweather fight. I just can't appreciate it.
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Even in the not too distant past you had a bunch of well marketed guys in the light to middle weight ranges. Golden Boy, Mosley, Vargas, Gatti, Hopkins etc. You had bigger guys too, Roy Jones and the Heavyweights. All that said, there's still a shitload of awesome fights and they'll eventually find a couple of guys to hype up.
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How you not gonna mention Johnny Tapia! (edit: time flies, I guess, Tapia probably more than the 'not too distant past')
There have at least always still been characters in boxing, Tapia being one of the best.
Like plenty of us have said, there have been a decent handful of really good fighters, maybe even a few great fighters, in recent years. The sport as a whole has issues, though. Kinda like Basketball has always had great, historic figures, but there were some really lean years too where the championships were on tape delay. Just like baseball has always still had a few great African American players, but it's a well documented fact that baseball is at an all time low for interest and relevance in those communities.
For instance, I figured I'd watch the upcoming fight on Convo's recommendation. So, it's live on HBO East at 6pm, but that's not an HD channel in my area. So, I find it in HD, also live, at 9pm. Err, what? Meanwhile, every other sports seems to be live, like actually live, and being watched at the live time, including Football at like 7 in the morning. Would that have been the case with any other sport at this point? Choosing between watching in live and not in HD, or watching it 3 hours after it airs in HD while HBO is claiming it's 'live' in the description. Dumb shit like this always seems to plague boxing.
edit to also add... De La Hoya?! Meh, I always thought he was far more hype than substance... he certainly did lose to all the good fighters of his era, though, while still thinking he was the best ever, which is a feat in itself.
There have at least always still been characters in boxing, Tapia being one of the best.
Like plenty of us have said, there have been a decent handful of really good fighters, maybe even a few great fighters, in recent years. The sport as a whole has issues, though. Kinda like Basketball has always had great, historic figures, but there were some really lean years too where the championships were on tape delay. Just like baseball has always still had a few great African American players, but it's a well documented fact that baseball is at an all time low for interest and relevance in those communities.
For instance, I figured I'd watch the upcoming fight on Convo's recommendation. So, it's live on HBO East at 6pm, but that's not an HD channel in my area. So, I find it in HD, also live, at 9pm. Err, what? Meanwhile, every other sports seems to be live, like actually live, and being watched at the live time, including Football at like 7 in the morning. Would that have been the case with any other sport at this point? Choosing between watching in live and not in HD, or watching it 3 hours after it airs in HD while HBO is claiming it's 'live' in the description. Dumb shit like this always seems to plague boxing.
edit to also add... De La Hoya?! Meh, I always thought he was far more hype than substance... he certainly did lose to all the good fighters of his era, though, while still thinking he was the best ever, which is a feat in itself.
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It's weird for sure and they are about ready to make a deal with ESPN as well. I think long term to recoup money, it has to be this way. This was a 500 million investment. My guess is they are trying to start a bidding war. Fine by me because they have been putting on good cards. The broadcast blows but the fights have been good. They need to get Wilder on there tho. Hopefully in June. Casuals love their heavyweights and he's the best we have.
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Yeah, PBC has been great. I'm seeing a lot of fighters I wouldn't have otherwise seen. For instance, the Thurman/Guerrero fight was really good.
I don't see why ESPN would be interested? They tried the whole Friday Night Fights thing already and had horrible cards most of the time. I mean, I realize that Friday is kind of a shitty timeslot, but to be honest, so is Saturday.
I don't see why ESPN would be interested? They tried the whole Friday Night Fights thing already and had horrible cards most of the time. I mean, I realize that Friday is kind of a shitty timeslot, but to be honest, so is Saturday.
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Can say what you want about Oscar dude fought EVERYone, never ducked anyone, never thought about ducking anyone. He faught Hopkins when he SHOULD NOT have. Dude was just way to big for him. Oscar was a great fighter, not an all time great, but he didnt duck anyone.
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Canelo-Kirkland is going to see a knock out. Both dudes like to throw them! lol Its going to be interesting. Canelo is like 24 now. He's about to hit his prime in the next year or so. Should be a fun fight.
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The way he was so intimidating as soon as he stepped in the ring, I'm not sure we'll see somebody else like that. The fight was already partially won before the bell even sounded. The Buster Douglas fight goes down as one of the top upsets (or THE top upset) in all of sports and not just because Tyson was good but because of the aura that surrounded him at the time. It was just jail that ruined him, he had a lot of bad people around him and once Cus died, that was pretty much the beginning of the end.
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Manny out for a year with shoulder surgery.Manny Pacquiao to have surgery on "significant tear" of rotator cuff in right shoulder
