Brave Frontier

Oulu imped and maxed, bring on Michele's batch! Shera, reeze, ragashelm all released in jp, decent units but nothing super exciting. Jp when full retard though, now every time you do 2 rare summons you get a bonus door with a monster from 1 to 7 star rarity, which can be fused to give a unit another extra skill. Some of the more rare bonuses are +50% hp, add mitigation to bb/sbb, add all element buff to bb/sbb. Broken as hell, and only available by rare summoning.

Ao-_sl said:

Also, what's Michele's stats? I'm about to start doing some full-retard farming to get not only her mats but leveling materials for her. My arena lead options suck.

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If you have a Michele then your Arena lead options are about to go from 'Suck' to 'God-Tier'.


Her Leadership skill gives +30% HP's, +40% BC Fill and +100% ATK (if 5 elements present)

....she has 33 Dropchecks on her normal attack.

With her extra skill she adds both Fire (meh) and Dark (Woo!) to her BB/SBB......BB/SBB buffs ATK/Crit (not the greatest possible versions of those, but damn handy to have around nontheless)....and if that wasn't enough, her Unique sphere +20% Stats from the Extra Skill has to be one of the best ones going, giving a total of +50% HP +50% ATK and a whole long ass list of +Offensive mods and +BC on crit.

She is absurd and worth any amount of farming/imping.

Tolwenn_sl said:

Yeah feel bad but raised 7* (O) Oulu. I'll prob max imp anyway though. Tree is at least (A). WVA I'm going with Selena,Tazer,Oulu,Tridon,Kurt.. Almost at 10 malice so I'm thinking I can start to delete some legwands. I'm at 240 item space but it just follows you as you keep increasing. And doing an hour of imp dungeon is really boring my god. I almost don't want to do it again.

I've been to 600+ wins twice now but start to get lazy bringing non arena teams. I think once I can get michele lead and they finally add the arena team option it'll be easier.

I was lucky and had Cerise from Thunder vortex so I had Cerise/Griel on Seria GQ.

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With the free Malice Jewel from the level up campaign (and having just recently gotten a legwand and Malice from Grand-Questing) I'm at 10 Malice Jewels now myself.....I bit the bullet for a bit more item space, so I'm going to try to get 15 or so malice I think, but if I were at 240 item space, I can definitely see myself stopping at 10 and considering myself lucky to have 'em.

I wasn't around during Thunder Vortex so don't have a Cerise.....still going to go Exvehl/Rowgen I think....took me longer than I had hoped to farm out support fodder for Exvehl. I have both their SBB's unlocked now, but neither of them maxed....still going to look up the data on their SBB's and see if it is worth the effort/fodder/frogs to max them out.....particularly Exvehl who is gonna rank up before too long anyway and get his BB levels cut in half again.


Edit: I might be running that exact same group for WVA. For the longest time I had heard people pining for the Water Vortex Arena....then when the patch finally hits that adds the WVA data, all of a sudden I hear folks complaining about not wanting to do it like it is a Frontier Hunter-esque week-long grind for bad rewards (like 1 summon ticket if you push yourself to the absolute brink to be in the top 1,000 or something). I hardly even know what to think of it now heh.

Ishad_sl said:

Oulu imped and maxed, bring on Michele's batch! Shera, reeze, ragashelm all released in jp, decent units but nothing super exciting. Jp when full retard though, now every time you do 2 rare summons you get a bonus door with a monster from 1 to 7 star rarity, which can be fused to give a unit another extra skill. Some of the more rare bonuses are +50% hp, add mitigation to bb/sbb, add all element buff to bb/sbb. Broken as hell, and only available by rare summoning.

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Wow didn't take them long to get Shera 7* live.......start the 3-month countdown for us then? heh. Starting to dig into Shera/Reeze/Ragshelm (I have all 3! woo! haha) data......(after looking at the data, I agree with your general assessment....interesting, solid units, probably have some nice niches they can excel at, but definitely not 'hair-on-fire' exciting.....I had hoped for more from Ragshelm.....I'm not sure what I expected from Shera, very solid, just ho-hum boring heh......hard to call Reeze a Po' Mans Aurelia just because of the Rec to Def conversion, but a very interesting set of skills nonetheless.)




Man, I had heard some rumblings about those bizzare +Extra Skill changes they were making in Japan, but it sounded so weird and so freakishly OP that I kinda dismissed them out of hand as speculative rumors.....but good grief, that is real? How can they justify that design decision? It is possible to make a game TOO broken.

Normally I'd be kinda happy to be able to play around with some kind of +Power buff to units, but I can't be happy about this. Maybe once I learn more about it, but right now it just seems broke as fuck and a blatant money grab.

I didn't notice RC5 had gone live until late last night....I still have 2 left to do.


I got 2 Flame Jewels from a single run of RC5 Mission 3....if that is any indication, RC5 is gonna have some obscene drop rates. Just wish they'd add some bloody Shiny Jewels somewhere.

I was also in the hoping for more from ragashelm boat. He'll be a nice sub in raids. Reese's kit is a little boring, for no other reason than status cure/null units are so prevelant. Shera synergies nicely with atk to def buffers and keeps her role as the best fh mitigator. Was a little disappointed there wasn't a decent leader skill in the bunch.

I'm not too worried about the bonus extra skill units, I'm expecting the best to be so rare they won't tune content around them. They'll end up being whale bait to make your own massively op unit.

Ishad_sl said:

I'm not too worried about the bonus extra skill units, I'm expecting the best to be so rare they won't tune content around them. They'll end up being whale bait to make your own massively op unit.

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Yea, this I think is the best we can hope for. If they do this, it won't be so bad.


I agree about the Leadership skills from that batch. I was hoping Ragshelm was gonna be that guy, as he was one I would use as Leader (his 5-star version at least) / or 5/6 star Friend Lead quite a bit as I was first leveling up...and I eventually got an Anima version of him, but there are much stronger leaders out already now.

Goddammit. I pretty much quit a few days ago, but the flurry of activity here accentuates withdrawal. Need to hop back on this trainor stay away from the thread.

It's better than most in some ways. Your odds of getting something good on any given summon - even during no rateups - vastly exceeds the odds of getting something good in Summoners War.

But this game is more about synergy than SW. I have a Bestie that I generally can't use. I have two mitiators - one that generates no BC and one that I can't keep alive. I had a killer squad that Zenia made obsolete. I can't get a dedicated crit buffer.

Rateups have been shit, transparency has been shit, luck has been shit. Down to like 20 gems.

A lot of you guys here are utter champs when faced with the reality of resources wasted. I can only handle it so much.

Pad also heavily monitizes the unit development cycle. Max level, max skilling, and max +eggs costs an insane amount of premium currency. Especially with time limited dungeons to push stamina recovery.

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Goddammit. I pretty much quit a few days ago, but the flurry of activity here accentuates withdrawal. Need to hop back on this trainor stay away from the thread.

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I quit over a week ago and I'm so glad I did. This game sucks up so much time and the payoff is terrible.

LiquidDeath_sl said:

I quit over a week ago and I'm so glad I did. This game sucks up so much time and the payoff is terrible.

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I owe a lot of my continued investment to the little community here. Me and Leto spouting irreverent, fun shit - we're serious, too, from time to time - and Ishad swooping in with the knowledge bombs. I'll miss that for sure, which is why I'm at least getting my daily login for now, but I largely agree.

If you need to get over a case of burn-out and frustration, this actually might be a really good time to take some time away. Just slow-playing it like you are.....get that daily log-in....when the next Frontier Hunter drops, do the runs you need just for the gems and whatnot, and just sit on them until the God Gate drops.

Then try your luck with the God Gate and see how things shake out. It is entirely possible you'll get the best of all worlds.....the time away to ease the burn out, and the units you need to have fun with, with a minimal amount of frustration.

Honestly, I've known for a while this game isn't the best thing for me...really time consuming and such. ...But on balance I am still enjoying it. Today my mandate was farming out Mecha Gods during half-energy vortex....I've farmed out 7 already, I need just one more Dark Mecha God to have 3 of each elemental type. I'm getting close to a level so I think I'm gonna try to time an Imp Parade later on today (if I can) to finish imp'ing my Grahdens and whatnot....then a Mega-Metal Parade tomorrow while half-vortex is still up because Gumi is still trolling us withholding the Super Honor Summons. And I'm still working on my personal arena win-streak milestone.

One of these days, I'll finish what I wanted to do, and either burn out or get bored or a funky combination of both....when that day comes, I'llflip over the nearest table and rage quitstop playing. The next day I'll barely know what to do with all the free time on my hands

I enjoy your company here Doc, but honestly this game is so time consuming, I can't bring myself to ask you to power through the burn-out and spend countless hours in the game just for the sake of me having good company here on the forums lol. Goodness knows how much more valuable our time could be spent elsewhere If I had any kind of sense (or wasn't enjoying myself as much) I'd put it down myself.


Edit: ...But if you do happen to stick around after a break, I'll be damn glad for the company

Lol, I plan on staying active in the thread regardless. At least until I lose track of the developments in the game to such an extent that I can't say anything meaningful.

And if they announce a 7* Luka I wanna hear about it!

Wva is up. 3000k points will get you the best rewards within reach. 18k, 20k points aren't really achievable without the vortex getting extended or gemming. Going to collect my 2 gems and imp and be done.