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Leto Eu`Acumen

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Wva is up. 3000k points will get you the best rewards within reach. 18k, 20k points aren't really achievable without the vortex getting extended or gemming. Going to collect my 2 gems and imp and be done.
I won't be losing any sleep over it or anything, but I'm gonna keep popping in to the WVA as long as it is up just on the off-chance that they do extend it....I still may not get any of the nicer stuff at the end, but /shrug

I actually find it amuzing to see some of the water units some folks are bringing out of the woodwork. I think I'm seeing some units in action for the very first time ever in there lol
 

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What's everyone's team? I've been running Medina lead but I'm gonna switch to Selena... along with oulu, tridon, Jack, and Selna (who'll be Medina once I swap their spots).
 

Ishad

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Reeze, oulu, karl, maridueth, selena. Reeze has paralyze on her bb, selena and oulu are good. The rest are just filler units.
 

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Reeze, oulu, karl, maridueth, selena. Reeze has paralyze on her bb, selena and oulu are good. The rest are just filler units.
Er, why bother with reeze? just in case she's the only one to fire off a BB?
 

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30 dcs, and she's better than my other water units. (Jack, Noah, stya, elimo)
Yeah, I need to pay more attention to that. I'm slotting medina first though, so if she hits everyone has at least their BB ready (if not SBB).
 

Ishad

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Hardest part of the vortex is hitting refresh until you find a good opponent. Right now you shouldn't fight anyone below glorified.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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I feel kinda lucky when it comes to water units/this WVA.

Slot 1: Tridon
Slot 2: Tazer
Slot 3: Zeldeus
Slot 4: Selena (Leader)
Slot 5: Colt

Tridon/Tazer and Zeldeus are all Type 2, which is 2 more than I really like having in a group at once, but they have been firing off their SBB's like a champ. Zeldeus is still level 113 and BB level 1......which puts his BB modifier at a scant 160% or something. I'll fodder him up soon, probably tomorrow (I still want to soak up Mondays Souls Training Ground while it is at Half-Energy cost, even though I don't actuallyneedthe levels anymore.....bang for the buck and all that.) Colt is at SBB Level 2, so he still needs fodder also....but at least his Brave Burst modifier is at a healthy 280%. The BB fill on my WVA squad is weak compared my real Arena team, but at least I'm consistantly getting all 5 BB's filled on turn 1, with at least a chance at 1-2'ish random SBB's filled also. I can't count on the SBB's, but that said, so far just Brave Bursts have been plenty enough, and Turn 2 wins are in the bag.

(Side Note: On my WVA squad, during combat my Colt is my lowest HP character at 10.2k HP, which is higher than 4 out of the 5 on my real Arena squad - and considerably higher than my lowest at 7.7k HP - with no bulk lead....but my real arena squad is vastly stronger.......still, feels nice to have some beefy ass HP's in an Arena setting for a change, and is a helluva tease for having Michele available as a 7-star Arena lead.)

One odd thing: My real Arena team (all 5 SBB's on Turn 1 almost a certainty barring certain random rules), only ever gets 3 SBB's maximum to fire on Turn 2.....as in never-ever 4, not once. It feels like if the opponents have zero HP's left, their BB/SBB won't fire no matter what, they'll just skip to normal attacks. My Water Vortex Arena team like 3 times today so far have had 4 BB/SBB fire on Turn 2. My guess is that it is an animation/timings issue? Pretty sure even 3 regular BB's are enough to wipe the floor with any team going.

All the crap aside, damn near everybody I run across is Undefeated anyway...so I'm not sure all the minutia of it really matters all that much. Undefeated is Undefeated no matter what you used to get there.

If this was a Fire Vortex instead of water, Ida been strait fucked. Early on, as in the very first day of playing, one of my very first summons ever was a 5-star version of Orwen....my first ever Rainbow door/Mega Rare, I thought I hit the jackpot....I didn't have the wisdom at the time to know that that unit was just a bad-unit from the get-go. To this day I've only raised him from level 1 to level 20, and still at 5-stars. Anyway, I got him, and a Lord Michele (been very very happy about that unit ever since her 7-star was announced though) and a whole Freakin' Flock of F'n Farlons.....I even got a 2nd Vargas (I had picked Vargas as my starter too, didn't know to pick a Selena at the time.).....anyway, getting a 2nd Vargas from the Honor Summons gate (wasn't even a Super Honor summons, just a crazy ass random pull within like 2 days of playing the game for the very first time.) Anyway, getting a 2nd Vargas that early, that easy, made me think he/the starters were common and easy to come by. So what did I do? All new and pressed for space? I fused Vargas away....BOTH of them.....the notion that a units typing had any measure of importance at all had never even crossed my mind at that point, so for all I know both could have even been Animas.

Anyway....ever since I committed that act of gross disrespect to Fire units, my account has seen very very few of them at all in the whole time since then.

My fire curse is probably why I should give up on the idea of ever having a Vesti/Bestie of my own.

My other curse is Breaker Healers......I don't know what the hell I did to get that curse, but almost every single healer on my account is a Breaker.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Hardest part of the vortex is hitting refresh until you find a good opponent. Right now you shouldn't fight anyone below glorified.
I'm not sure if my current tactic is actually all that wise or not, but lately I've been refreshing to find someone level 150 or lower if I can, bonus if my opponent is running anything other than a Selena lead lol. Pretty much ensures that at least my opponent will have several 6-stars included in their squad.

Almost feels like a cheap tactic to use, but I see no reason not to give myself any advantage I can find.


Been doing that with my real Arena squad too, but mostly because lately I've been getting paranoid as fuck that my consecutive wins streak will get broken before I reach the big personal milestone I've been aiming for (don't wanna jinx it.)
 

Ishad

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I'm not sure if my current tactic is actually all that wise or not, but lately I've been refreshing to find someone level 150 or lower if I can, bonus if my opponent is running anything other than a Selena lead lol. Pretty much ensures that at least my opponent will have several 6-stars included in their squad.

Almost feels like a cheap tactic to use, but I see no reason not to give myself any advantage I can find.


Been doing that with my real Arena squad too, but mostly because lately I've been getting paranoid as fuck that my consecutive wins streak will get broken before I reach the big personal milestone I've been aiming for (don't wanna jinx it.)
It really depends on how high you want to aim. We have the vortex for 5 days. If you can get in 30 orbs a day, and never lose you'll need to average 100 pts per win to get the unit. Obviously the lower you set your sights the less points per match matters.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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It really depends on how high you want to aim. We have the vortex for 5 days. If you can get in 30 orbs a day, and never lose you'll need to average 100 pts per win to get the unit. Obviously the lower you set your sights the less points per match matters.
Yea, that is true.

I kinda got away from doing that in the real Arena....levels are big enough now that I spend most of the time more than the 3k points (or whatever it is, think it is 3k) inbetween different ranks that it takes to see a higher or lower rank pop up anyway. Between that and the win-streak, wins started becoming more important than points.


I should get back to that for WVA though, you are absolutely correct. Thanks.


Edit: That made such a huge difference, particularly at these levels....I feel like a moron for not remembering that. Wasted a half a day's worth of orbs on low risk/low reward
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Man, I'm not even sure who to imp anymore...
7 Stars:
I've got selena, Elimo, Griel, kIra, Tridon, and claire max imped/UBB done.
Oulu is 5 def imps away, Lava is 8 or 11 HP imps away

6 Stars:
I've got Zelnite, Darvanshel, Elza, Michelle, and Maxwell all max imped and SBBed.
Ulkina needs a pile of hp and atk, but is maxed for def and rec.

I'm thinking I'll leave Ulkina and focus on Medina... but I can do Tree or Will also (though Will isn't maxed or even 7* yet).
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Also el-oh-el at those goofy bastards at the top of the rankings gemming their asses off. Even if you came in at #1, you'll have spent more gems than the summon tickets you'd win are worth. #4 has used 196 Orbs so far today o_O
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Man, I'm not even sure who to imp anymore...
7 Stars:
I've got selena, Elimo, Griel, kIra, Tridon, and claire max imped/UBB done.
Oulu is 5 def imps away, Lava is 8 or 11 HP imps away

6 Stars:
I've got Zelnite, Darvanshel, Elza, Michelle, and Maxwell all max imped and SBBed.
Ulkina needs a pile of hp and atk, but is maxed for def and rec.

I'm thinking I'll leave Ulkina and focus on Medina... but I can do Tree or Will also (though Will isn't maxed or even 7* yet).
It would be hard to argue against imp'ing Medina and Will. Even where Will overlaps with other characters skills, he tends to do so in ways that he retains value (freeing up other characters to use different skills and such). Medina is still Medina....still want one of her myself. A-Tree is niche where you want a healer that doesn't actually attack anything (damage reflect encounters and such), but I'm not sure how widely useful he'll be honestly. I have one, but I'm not going to drop any imps on him anytime soon.

Personally, if it were me, I'd probably Imp Will first just because he seems a bit more unique, in that he has a gazillion tools in his toolbox. Medina is a great unit, but I kinda feel like she'd be the one to get outclassed faster.....honestly it depends on your roster and your needs though.

I don't remember the last time I used my Ulkina.
 

Ishad

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Man, I'm not even sure who to imp anymore...
7 Stars:
I've got selena, Elimo, Griel, kIra, Tridon, and claire max imped/UBB done.
Oulu is 5 def imps away, Lava is 8 or 11 HP imps away

6 Stars:
I've got Zelnite, Darvanshel, Elza, Michelle, and Maxwell all max imped and SBBed.
Ulkina needs a pile of hp and atk, but is maxed for def and rec.

I'm thinking I'll leave Ulkina and focus on Medina... but I can do Tree or Will also (though Will isn't maxed or even 7* yet).
Focus on medina, will and tree. Will replaces lava in every situation. Will is super good, but in situations where you don't need dual 30% leader skills, zenia is probably the better bb buffer.
 

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Focus on medina, will and tree. Will replaces lava in every situation. Will is super good, but in situations where you don't need dual 30% leader skills, zenia is probably the better bb buffer.
No zenia yet
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My playstyle is constant BB, so I use her as a friend all the time (with Griel lead, though I've started maining Medina on farming).
 

Ishad

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No zenia yet
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That's okay. Most of the time you want zenia it's as a friend more than a sub. The jp meta revolves around glyph/roa leads with nadore, krantz, melchio, will subs.

It'll be interesting to see if sbs units break that mold.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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It'll be interesting to see if sbs units break that mold.
With the release of some meta-changing global exclusives, I'd been pondering that lately, and I've come to the conclusion that it is very healthy - maybe even necessary - that Global release some game-changing units of their own every now and then.


By the time Japans units get to us, they've already had them for at least 3+ months.....the meta game has been poked and prodded, weighed and measured, theory-crafted and experimented with.....by the time any of those units get to us, their place in the meta-game is already so well explored there is very little for global players to mentally chew on.

Toss in a few meta-changing units here and there, and all of a sudden the entire meta game gets shifted around....some units drop drastically in value while others can actually rise in value....just because the available units/skills/combinations make different characters relevant/irrelevant. Then Global has a period of weeks/months to re-explorer the current meta of the game around units Japan never got to pre-examine/test/evaluate for us.

Just my opinion. But I'm pretty damn glad Gumi isn't afraid to add meta-changing units every now and then.