Brave Frontier

Ishad_sl said:

I like Gaiza as a nuker in those teams but I still can't find a raid comp that uses him that I like.

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Yea, I don't know if it is my roster or just the nature of his character or what, but I'm having a devil of a time working him into my Raid groups also. I still just have him plugged in where Aaron was, (and mostly he seems superior to Aaron for most purposes), but the buff overlap going on there is grotesque. I like Gazia as a character but he seems difficult to build groups around.

Regarding his attack animation: It is frustrating that a significant number of his attacks are delayed long past any chance at sparking with most unit combinations, however it seems that the bulk (2/3rds maybe? I have no proof) of his attacks are front-loaded and easily sparkable, with a dozen or so of his attacks on the back-end that are almost completely unsparkable. While having his attacks split like that does hurt his spark potential for overall damage, he still has more than enough easily sparked attacks on the front-end to get as much BC from sparks with Zenia/Rhoa style leads to equal most any character I use. So in terms of BC-Fill at least, his attack animation really doesn't seem to hurt him any in my Zenia led groups.

Ishad_sl said:

Now it's just waiting for the 2nd anniversary and debating if I should get a griff or zedus if they do a free unit of choice.

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Hah, yea, those two units are also on my very short list of potentials. I really hope Gumi gives us that free unit in Global.

Griff has an amazing combination of skills, I really didn't fully appreciate just how good he was until the last couple weeks. Not much to say about Zedus, DPS extraordinaire. It is still *possible* (although, with Gumi, I don't think anybody can say for sure) that Zedus, along with the other SBS units, would NOT be in the God-Gate if/when that comes along. Technically he is a legacy unit along with the others that the God-Gate would filter out.....that would be another argument in favor of Zedus over anyone else for me, as I'd still have hope of getting Griff/Krantz etc, from the God Gate, but Zedus would pretty much be forever out of my reach outside of oddball group-of-units summons pools.

I would also still have to very strongly consider Krantz. In spite of Gazia being a thing now, Krantz would still fit into my groups/roster perfectly.

Two other units that I *might* have to consider strongly would be Zelnite and Shida - I never got either one, and if their 7-star packages are compelling enough, they might be important enough to get. ...They'd also not appear in the God-Gate. (if there ever is one) I'd have to see their skill sets first though if JPBF ever gets around to releasing their skill profiles for us. Both of those 7-star units have the potential to be pretty damn meta if they are done right....(of course they also have the potential to be ho-hum 7-star versions of what they are now heh).

If Gumi goes foward with the unit-of-your-choice promotion for their Anniversary event, we will have some interesting conversations ahead of us.

Ao-_sl said:

edit: Any chance someone can put up Xie'Jang for me for a bit? I'm dumb and took the "get 1000 HC in a single quest" challenges and I'm failing miserably at it. Worst part is I have no idea how many I'm actually getting, just that it's "not enough".

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I put mine up for a bit. Let me know when I can take her back down.

I can tweak the spheres some if you like, but I don't want to mess with my raid group/main group spheres much if I can help it.

I had the Heresy Orb on Hadaron but I'm doing Balmedia today so he won't be needing it heh.

Ao-_sl said:

Trying another strategy now with a Gazia. Aiming for MASSIVE hit count and it seems to be working (I think?). Give me a few more tries and I'll see
Elimo lead (for HC drop leader skill), Maxwell, Elza, Lario, Lava (who was a mistake, need someone else in this slot I think), with Gazia friend. Tossed Omni Gizmos and other BC+HC drop enhancer spheres on everyone.

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No rush. Good Luck....I haven't tried that special challenge yet myself.

Ao-_sl said:

Crushed it (I think). You can check records between fights to verify, but I killed it with that team. Elimo lead and high drop count is all that's really necessary. 10x DEF imp and 2k merit points... which means I get to max out Krantz's def finally!

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Nice!

Ao-_sl said:

How do they even implement it? Just "file a ticket and we'll grant it" or "pick a unit number and a type and it'll get mailed"?


edit: Any chance someone can put up Xie'Jang for me for a bit? I'm dumb and took the "get 1000 HC in a single quest" challenges and I'm failing miserably at it. Worst part is I have no idea how many I'm actually getting, just that it's "not enough".

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They had an in game link which took you to a website, where you selected unit and type. The unit got mailed to you. Thought about it some more this morning and have all but settled on griff. I hope they do it, but think there is a good chance they don't.

Ok, so Balmedia is still a gigantic pain in the ass.

It does seem that putting a password on the room and not letting anyone join in-progress IS keeping people out though (maybe they just stealth fixed that in the lastest patch? I'm not that lucky).

I tried opening some public rooms earlier in the day, but goddamnitalltohell I swear to fucking god people cannot resist bringing in Crit Leads. One mother fucker brought in *two* crit buffers. Wasted time and Raid Orbs because people wouldn't stop killing Balmedia before Balmedia's Tail pissed me off to no end.

On the one hand, if I open the room myself, I have a high chance of getting 3-4 stars on the raid mission, BUT I have a much higher chance of it all being a waste because the tail was never killed..... On the other hand, if I do the mission solo, with no crit buffer and a defensive squad build, it takes me a solid 20 Minutes to clear RC5 M4....and the most I can manage solo is 2-stars, so my potential drop rates are lower. (I don't go so defensive on RC5 M3/5 etc and clear them in half that time - but I can use Crit Buffers in those...)

I've settled on just doing it solo in a password protected room just because that is the less infuriating option, even if it is still a gigantic pain in the ass. My group is *almost* full-auto. I do have to keep a half an eye on it during Balmedia because she sometimes gets in the mood to Curse my group and if she gets the mitigator it would be a wipe - I'm still using Aurelia for status cures and she only has it on BB, so she has to have a pretty shitty BC round to get it on Auto....other than that, at least I don't have to micromanage it.

I've counted and I need 9 more Blaze Pearls to convert the Malices' I do have into Buffers and 11 more if I count the Malice Jewel I might make from the Legwand reward in the next Frontier Hunter......My plan is to just grind out this pain in the ass for several days strait, however long it takes to get 11 more Blaze pearls, then say goodbye to that nonsense forever.

20 minute raids at 2-star odds is for the goddamn birds.



I really wish they hadn't changed whatever they changed with crit resistant boss parts. If I'd known that was coming, I'd have farmed out a lifetime supply of Blaze Pearls weeks ago.

Leto stop making me wanna play this bullsheeeit again

So.....has anyone else here not been able to get in since the patch?

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Leto stop making me wanna play this bullsheeeit again

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LOL, sorry about that


Gazia is kinda boss though as a 7-star Mitigator *cough*FeedTheAddiction*cough*

Ao-_sl said:

I'm in fine. Almost done with my stuff while half-ass playing through work.

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Not to wish ill on anyone, but for once I was kinda hoping I wasn't the only one left out in the cold after a patch. Bad Luck on a patch never seems to miss me no matter what I do.

I spent the whole day trying to get my PC into shape to get Windows 10 installed (I wanted to give them a minute longer to work any kinks out of their new release.)....in the process my WB MyBook backup drive died. Fucker was full, 1TB of lost data. I still had a copy of that stuff on a drive on my computer but still, a miserable PITA, and I'm down an external HD. I can't even format it or diagnose the problem, but that is another conversation.

Beyond that, my Windows 10 upgrade bugged out and after a lot of frustration I had to delete the update/installation files and start over from scratch.

Long story short, I eventually did get Windows 10 installed and JUST got Brave Frontier installed. Windows 10 is pretty damn smooth. It was a pain, but so far it looks like it was worth it.

Seeing Brave Froniter on my monitor rather than the mobile device is hilarious...my monitor rotates into vertical mode too, so I'm gonna have to try that out later this evening lol.

Ao-_sl said:

Dumped a bunch of artons on Yuura. Quaid, Dion, or Raaga next?

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Nice on the Yuura! Dion is your Thunder/Earth specialist (Think Kira but Thunder/Earth instead of Light/Dark....most useful for Frontier Hunter/Gate special squad builds and such).....Raaga is great for two things: A sub in a Hadaron-led Arena squad (his native double normal hits is ace in a Hadaron group even though his arena type blows)...BUT now with Gazia out, if you have Gazia in the group he can potentially surpass Zenia as a Sub based purely on Spark damage and he won't overwrite Gazia's BB% buff like Zenia will (...however if you need Zenias UBB, she still holds that trump card.) Quaid is the most universal of the bunch probably....classic quad-elemental retyping, can be very very useful as elemental retyping is still potentially the best buff to damage that there is.....however in a meta where units are doing a gazillion things at once, Quaid doesn't bring nearly as many skills to the table....but what he does bring is ace if you need it.

Kinda depends on what you need the most.

One of my first ever 7-star units was Quaid, so he got Imp'd out a long long time ago (my very first max imp'd character)....and he is one of the few I don't regret even a little bit. I still use him too when the need arises.

If I had a Raaga (I don't), I'd raise him up as a sub.......I do have a Breaker Dion and I expect that I will be putting work into maxing him out....I just haven't yet. Currently throwing imps on an Ultor just because....I'll have to strongly consider Dion soon after though.

All three are useful picks.....Dion *might* be the most future proof just because he is so niche (same as with Kira who is older than dirt, but still has his place.)....but Dion being pretty niche means you'll either use him or you won't and nothing in between. Raaga could potentially be the least future proof, although on the other hand if you have the right squad, he could be pretty great while he lasts. Gazia gave him new life.



Edit: Didn't mean to tell you a buncha things you already knew about your own units or anything, it just helps me to break down the pros and cons of units in making a decision, so thought it might be helpful for your own decision to get another take on 'em.

Just tried RC5 M4 under Windows 10.

Cut my time down from 20 minutes to just over 15.....easily carved out 4.5+ minutes from my run. I was curious if there was truth to the reports that there is a difference with damage behaving differently on Windows 10 Brave Frontier but honestly I couldn't tell (none of my people died, which is normal in the defensive squad I've been using for that mission and I can't tell round-to-round if I did any more damage myself or not)....the time difference could just be that my desktop runs the game faster 'n fuk compared to the mobile device where I have to have options turned off/down so the friggin' thing won't slow down and try to overheat lol.

Not gonna lie though, I was surprised that it cut out nearly 5 minutes from a 20 minute run....that is significant to say the least. Too bad I can't pack this desktop around with me everywhere I go heh

I haven't tried a Frontier Gate run yet, but I'm curious how that will go.

Ao-_sl said:

HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE.

I can play BF on my win10 desktop?

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lol, yea it is a riot.

You download it through the Windows Store (Just do a search for Brave Froniter within the store)....there IS one odd/quirky thing you have to do before you try to download it though. You need to change the region settings on your computer to Singapore (you can change it right back afterwards), otherwise the download just gets stuck at "working..." I seemed to need to reboot my computer after I changed the region settings for it to work (it didn't prompt me to do so or anything.)

Once it was downloaded and such, I changed them right back and everything has been smooth.

On the battle screen, the usable items icons at the bottom of the screen on my mobile device are about the size of a thumbprint or quarter (though not quite as wide as a quarter)....on my desktop monitor when it is rotated in vertical mode those icons are at least as wide as a deck of playing cards lol. What I have going is nothing special, but I might take a picture of it anyway to post just because it is so trippy after having played Brave Frontier on nothing but mobile all this time lol


For the record: Frontier Gate/Hunter scores didn't really change. Swiping/Manual Clicking doesn't seem as smooth as just using a finger or stylus on a touch screen, but you can still be pretty quick (partly that will be my fault when playing it in full screen on this monitor in vertical mode, so I have a lot of real estate to cover with the mouse just to click everybody lol)


I STILL can't log in to Brave Frontier on my mobile device though. I'd be strait pissed if I couldn't get in to Brave Frontier at all during this Frontier Hunter. Why, you ask? I need a +4 to get Paris.......yea, THAT Paris who has a 7-star coming. One way or the other, I'm getting a +4 this time for Paris.

For the first time I'm having to deal with Gems not transferring between different OS's. Now I have some Gems (From Frontier Hunter and Chain Collab GQ) that only exist in WIndows 10, while all my other gems are still inaccessible on my non-windows mobile device (different app store, different set of gems). It isn't going to be a huge deal, just one more thing to deal with. Worth it to be able to play atm, that is for sure.

It seems to be a damn good thing to be able to access Brave Frontier from two devices/two different OS's, so that if one of them gets glitched all to hell after a patch like mine has done more than once, there is a backup that can be tried.....they'd have to fuck up across the board for both to quit working. Android/Wireless vs Windows/Wired.....While I do still prefer the moble option that I can take with me wherever I need it to go, the desktop option is a huge boon atm, or I'd be screwed in a huge way - I still can't log in to Brave Frontier on my mobile device.







Edit: And yea, you should definitely start chipping away at the Trials/GQ's. You are more than ready to do so. I don't remember which trials were crazy easy to start, but you kinda just have to try them anyway. Any EX Trials you haven't already done for the +15% Non-Status-Stat spheres would be damn nice to have. I don't remember the first couple at least being any big deal.

The biggest pain in the ass with Trials is that some of them are in love with Turn Counting (which I loathe), the ones that use Thresholds are less frustrating for me (some use both). Just expect needing multiple tries on any trials that still have any challenge left in them - having to try some of those several times just to become familiar with them is a part of the process.

Bottom Line: It is worth it.

Just know that it will be best done over a period of several weeks or longer. Take 'em one at a time on days where you can afford to dump the Energy on it and be patient. (I usually did most of my Trials/GQ work on days in between 2x exp and 1/2 energy vortex events...usually there is a gap of days in between those events where I had no immediate demands on my energy)

Ao-_sl said:

Do these Chain Chronicle units blow as much as I think they do? For most of the Crossovers/collabs in P&D, the units were useful for fodder or at least semi-interesting.

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/shrug Honestly, I haven't looked at them all that closely, I got the 2 from the Vortex and the 3 from the temporary Grand Quest just for collection purposes.....they all max out at 6-stars unless I'm really badly mistaken.

I haven't yet gotten the Mitigator you have to play Chain Chronicle to get via a code yet, but I do intend to at some point. I'd prefer to be able to access the game via my mobile device first, if/when they ever get around to fixing that.


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No matter how much personal progress I make in Frontier Hunter, every single season the Community-At-Large makes me feel like a child at play. This season people are talking about hitting 20+M (some even 30+M if you can believe it) points from Middle Farming. Dual-Dion and Dual-Zedus led groups are all the rage. (I'm starting to lean a little more toward Zedus for the free unit if Gumi hooks us up with that)

Also, my Dion/Rize's are not Imp'd up, but I wish they were now. By they time I gettem done it will be too late for this Frontier Hunter unless I go all out with Imp farming or something heh. (not the worst idea really.)

I still feel like I'm missing something important with Frontier Hunter, no matter what units/spheres I have/use, my scores are a shadow of what they could be.