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So I evolved Rigness and Rosetta to 6*, and use them with Shera and whatever shit cheap unit is handy as my squad. Not sure what to Evolve next (not that I can afford another 6* in my squad just yet anyway, but thinking ahead). I understand Shera is supposed to be awesome because of his 1/2 damage 1 turn buff BB, but I'm not seeing the usefulness just yet. I'm sure it's handy, but how long down the road? In the meantime, I'm also sitting on Aisha, Ciara, Mariudeth, Lario, Eze, Tia, Rina, Uda, Mifune, and Elza. Tia seems a bit overshadowed by Rigness, and should maybe sit on the back burner, but maybe an Earth healer would be good to have /shrug
 

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So I evolved Rigness and Rosetta to 6*, and use them with Shera and whatever shit cheap unit is handy as my squad. Not sure what to Evolve next (not that I can afford another 6* in my squad just yet anyway, but thinking ahead). I understand Shera is supposed to be awesome because of his 1/2 damage 1 turn buff BB, but I'm not seeing the usefulness just yet. I'm sure it's handy, but how long down the road? In the meantime, I'm also sitting on Aisha, Ciara, Mariudeth, Lario, Eze, Tia, Rina, Uda, Mifune, and Elza. Tia seems a bit overshadowed by Rigness, and should maybe sit on the back burner, but maybe an Earth healer would be good to have /shrug
Shera, maridueth and lario.Use rosetta as a lead and you should be able to spam bb every turn. Focus on getting everyone sbb unlocked and enough team cost for 6 stars.

Elza and mifune would be good to level after that.

Someone should edit the first post to mention only take selena as a starter.
 

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Hit a bit of a personal milestone earlier.... Level 200!

200 cost will be the real milestone, but I'm still hoping to hit that magic number of level 214 for 200 cost before the double exp/half vortex cost bonuses end (so I have more quality time evolution material farming before half-vortex ends)....but I am optimistic. After I get 200 cost, I'll feel less pressured to do things just for the sake of experience and be more open to doing all the other things I've been wanting to do.


Also, I'm resisting the temptation to summon during the 4-gem 5+1 event with the +1 being Kira batch or newer (all 7-star units). No rate-up (unless you included the 7-star +1 as a quasi rate-up), but still kinda nice event that I'd jump on if I didn't have a man-crush on Vesti.

I'm fixated enough on getting Vesti, that if I don't get her when I pull for her, it might (will probably) actually hurt how much I enjoy the game. If I get a Vesti though, she'll be promoted to my go-to group leader at light speed.
 

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So I evolved Rigness and Rosetta to 6*, and use them with Shera and whatever shit cheap unit is handy as my squad. Not sure what to Evolve next (not that I can afford another 6* in my squad just yet anyway, but thinking ahead). I understand Shera is supposed to be awesome because of his 1/2 damage 1 turn buff BB, but I'm not seeing the usefulness just yet. I'm sure it's handy, but how long down the road? In the meantime, I'm also sitting on Aisha, Ciara, Mariudeth, Lario, Eze, Tia, Rina, Uda, Mifune, and Elza. Tia seems a bit overshadowed by Rigness, and should maybe sit on the back burner, but maybe an Earth healer would be good to have /shrug
Shera will be handy and possibly mandatory sooner than you think. You've got access units that considerably outclass those that were available to those who completed the quests earlier in the game's timeline. I'm relatively new, so the units I used also trivialized that content, and you've got access tp even better.

The thing that makes her so much more useful than other mitigators - 95% of the time I choose her over the very meta Elimo - is her 24 hit SBB, wbich also mitigates for 3 turns. That's utterly absurd value, especially for a low cost unit (still important at your level).

She's one of relatively few mitigators, is compatible with Frontier Hunter and also contributes well to spark teams. I'd have had zero chance against Maxwell without her. She's the only 6* remaining in my primary team and I'll probably drop somebody else before ditching her.

But even for you, right now, evolving her to 6 and unlocking her SBB will yield appreciable benefit, provided you've got the cost to support another 6*.
 

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pulled 15 times for the three extra... fucking dumb.

Let me know if I pulled something decent, otherwise it looks like 45 gems and 5 summon tickets were a fucking waste...

Alpha Behemoth 5* Anima (New)
Elimo 5* Breaker (Dupe)
Alpha Behemoth 5* Lord (Dupe)
Rigness 5* Breaker (New)
Orwen 5* Breaker (New)
Azael 5* Breaker (Dupe, better type, first bonus, before Kira update bonus was added)

Medina 5* Breaker (New)
Hadaron 5* Anima (New)
Lava 5* Anima (Dupe... and I just UBB'ed my 7*)
Il & Mina 5* Breaker (New)
Bran 5* Lord (New)
Regrard 5* Breaker (New, Bonus)

Will 5* Oracle (Dupe and shitty type)
Priscilla 5* Anima (Dupe)
Ulkina 5* Guardian (Dupe, though I think Oracle is the best typing... which sucks because first one is an anima that is almost max-imp'ed)
Lubradine 5* Anima (Dupe, better type)
Elimo 5* Guardian (Trips... fucking)
Medina 5* Guardian (Dupe, Bonus)

Two duplicate bonuses. :| I just wanted a Oguro or Kanon

hrm, Medina doesn't seem bad, the rest seem to be shit though.
 

DoctorSpooge_sl

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Medina is quite good if you don't have a Kikuri. Unless your original Elimo is anima, I'd say that guardian one is a good typing. Ulkina was really good for me for a while, but she's probably superceded by a number of units. Hardon is getting the 7* treatment I believe. Not great summons, man
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although I am only mentioning the ones I have used.

I pulled 3 times last night for the extra - also dumb. Medina, Tia i think (was a few days ago when I did the first two) then last night Lava (first anima 7*able unit), Eva, some old thunder unit I'd never heard of. Balgran in the mail, who I'll experiment with.

Feel pretty shit about it. Was just hoping against hope for a Kira or Colt and now I'm down to like 30 gems.
 

Ishad

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Hadaron is a wild card. Getting a 7 star but who knows how good it will be. Loads of dupes suck, at least you have a will, his 7* is awesome.

Spooge, balgran is amazing anywhere you need status ailments. He's really the only one I want from this batch. I'm holding out now for Rivera and Kafka in two more batches.
 

DoctorSpooge_sl

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Good to know about Balgran. I didn't know he was any good, but he's unique and I love units that have unique capabilities, even if they're not top tier, so I planned to try him anyway. Of the Oracle Knights I kinda wanted the green one - Dion? I just need a fucking crit buffer.

Still pissed I blew those gems, Balgran or not. Shoulda coasted on my incredible luck a few weeks before - Raaga, Oguro, Claire in 5 summons over period of a week or so.
 

Tolwen

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Yeah it wouldn't have been so bad without your dupes. I don't think I have it in me to summon more than 5 times anymore. If I pull some really bad luck I get mad and gem all my slots though. If you don't get a unit you've wanted chances are 2 months later it has been outclassed so I try not to chase units. Some of the 7* are already getting knocked down just crazy.
 

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Nah my OG is lord, but I'm pretty close to max imped on him, so I'll just stick with him.
 

DoctorSpooge_sl

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Yeah I used to hate how fast they released units, but lately I'm changing my mind a little. Even if they put in a crazy rateup, the odds are vastly stacked against a good 50% of the pool of units in the pool being useless or dupes for me. I have like 8 or 10 7* out of probably 50, but the ability overlap is pretty insane and after having used pretty much every one of them via friends, they're all boring now =p. (That's also why I'm excited about Balgran - doubly so after Ishad told me he was actually good.) I'm missing dozen of the "meta" units, but the only ones I really want are crit buffers and units like Ruby (hell, another Claire) for FH.

Actually, I'll leave that there, but I changed my mind while posting this and actually think they're releasing more than enough units but that not many are outclassing what came before (I'm only thinking of the 7* era on, obviously). There seem to be as many sidegrades - Feeva then Griel, Kikuri then Medina - as upgrades like Claire to Raaga.

Hell, I dunno I'm smashed. Time to stop posting!
 

Ishad

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Oh and if you need any more incentive to save gems, Japan implemented a godly rare summon gate. Which is guaranteed 7* from Kira's batch on. Old units with 7*s such as elimo are only in the normal summon gate. Both gates cost the same.
 

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Oh and if you need any more incentive to save gems, Japan implemented a godly rare summon gate. Which is guaranteed 7* from Kira's batch on. Old units with 7*s such as elimo are only in the normal summon gate. Both gates cost the same.
WELP, I know where I'm shifting my gems too. Can I use summon tickets on it?

I'm sort of at a lose as to what to focus on right now for units. I normally try to keep one of each type "available" so I can feed BB fodder correctly, but I'm running out of non-attack BB units. Tiara is currently my healer (everyone else I have is maxed except Rigness) and Oulu is my buff BB fodder guy. I've maxed the BB on most of my 6* and 7* units that are at their final forms, I just have no idea what to evolve.
 

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What's your progression like? As in what level, what's your current lineup, what's available, etc etc.
I'm gonna try and hit level 190 tonight.

My main squad is a perma-BB squad that is maxed Elza lead, Ulkina, Darvanshel, Selena, Zelnite, with a Feeva/Rosetta/Elza lead. I'm running with permanent 1/2 dmg, permanent status nullification, and permanent regen from Darv/Ulk/Selena.

Red Units of Note:
Darvanshel (Max)
Ulkina (Max)
Lava (Max)
Fiora (Max)
Grandt (Max)
Nick (Max)
Claire
Luther
Vanberk
Orwen
Magmazorda
Michele

Blue Units of Note:
Elimo (Max)
Dean (Max)
Selena (Max)
Tridon (Max)
Jack (Max)
Arius (Max)
Raydn (Max)
Tiara (Almost Max)
Oulu (Almost Max)
Karl
Reeze
Rigness
Medina
Signas

Green Units of Note:
Dilma (Max, and 5* Max)
Zelnite (Max)
Lario (Max)
Tree (Max)
Ragshelm (Max)
Lance (6* Max)
Luly (Max)
Lidith
Il&Mina
Golem
Ophelia
Darvan
Nalmika
Faris
Tia
Elaina (6* Max)

Yellow Units of Note:
Griel (Max)
Rowgen (Max)
Orna (Max)
Rashil (Max)
Diana (6* Max)
Bargus
Garnan
Uda
Bran
Grybe
Amy
Loch
Elulu
Alpha Behemoth
Weiss
Eze

Light Units of Note:
Melchio (Max)
Maxwell (Max)
Kira (Max)
Leorone (Max)
Lilith (Max)
Narza (Max)
Fadahl (6* Max)
Sodis
Aylut
Themis
Azael
Hogar
Yujeh
Priscilla
Eva
Len

Dark Units of Note:
Elza (Max) x2
Shida (Max)
Zephyr (Max)
Borgeus (Max)
Lily Matah (Max)
Semira (Max)
Magress (6* Max)
Mifune
Lira
Kajah
Ardin
Hadaron

Max (in general) means max evolution, max level, and max BB. Some of them are max imp'ed and sphere frogged.
 

DoctorSpooge_sl

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I'd try Claire lead, Kira, Darvanshel, Diana and Selena. I dunno though - you have a lot of units I've never used, but that'll give you BB fill, BB on hit, BC drop, spark boost, crit boost, mitigation and some healing. Cost might be (slightly) too high and I'm not sure if those hitcounts are spammy enough to justify a Claire lead. If it doesn't work, there are people here who know a hell of a lot more than I do about the game to help you.

edit: I see why you wanted a Kanon. Probably need status nullification in there somewhere and Ulkina makes is really fire heavy. Maybe Griel lead, Claire, Darvanshel, Kira, Selena.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Yeah I used to hate how fast they released units, but lately I'm changing my mind a little. Even if they put in a crazy rateup, the odds are vastly stacked against a good 50% of the pool of units in the pool being useless or dupes for me. I have like 8 or 10 7* out of probably 50, but the ability overlap is pretty insane and after having used pretty much every one of them via friends, they're all boring now =p. (That's also why I'm excited about Balgran - doubly so after Ishad told me he was actually good.) I'm missing dozen of the "meta" units, but the only ones I really want are crit buffers and units like Ruby (hell, another Claire) for FH.

Actually, I'll leave that there, but I changed my mind while posting this and actually think they're releasing more than enough units but that not many are outclassing what came before (I'm only thinking of the 7* era on, obviously). There seem to be as many sidegrades - Feeva then Griel, Kikuri then Medina - as upgrades like Claire to Raaga.

Hell, I dunno I'm smashed. Time to stop posting!
IMO it is high time to start looking at units via what they do vs who they are.

What I mean by that is this: There are 2 critical questions anyone can ask themselves to distill whether or not they *need* to summon (as opposed to just 'want', in which case folks should just do what they feel and enjoy themselves.)

1) Do I have units that cover all the important roles? (Crit buffer, spark buffer, BC/BB buffer(s), Elemental buffer, Infinite STSBB, Healer, Mitigator, Status inflictor etc.)

2) Do I have enough units that with the right preparation (i.e., you have the cost/spheres/imps etc to field a full squad of your choice from the units you own), that you can beat ALL the content currently in the game?

If anyone can answer yes to both of those questions, then they don't *need* to summon anything, no matter what units are getting a rate up or just released. The second question is more clarifying than the first....you can cover all the roles but still need to be able to mix-n-match a little to best meet any content....but once you can beat everything, there is no purpose of new units at all other than just the sheer fun of it. Once you have what you need to be able to beat everything, why use gems to summon units that might be new now but will be outdated when content rolls out that you *can't* yet beat.

For me personally, there is still plenty of content I haven't yet beaten in the game - however I'm pretty damn sure I could beat everything with what I already have after I put in the requisite work.

...Doesn't mean I'm not gonna drop all manner of gems and summon tickets for a Vesti though
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lol Like I said though, that is largely a question of Want...I want a Vesti bad, and it would be great fun to be able to raise one up.....But I'd still be able to get along just fine without one (no doubt a good percentage of any persons friend list will be Vesti after she gets released, so Vesti's will be available to me even if I don't get one myself.)

I just think that once a person gets past theirneedsthen they can afford start hoarding their gems and only using them when it is of greatest value to them. (...with Popular unit rate ups being fantastic time to drop gems.) I have zero units from the most recent batch, and I still don't have a Raaga/Colt/Claire/Kanon...however even Colt is soon going to be power-creeped past with new units coming out in the next couple of months (and Claire is considerably less shiny without a Colt imo....and while Raaga is absolutely Beast, during the last Frontier Hunter I got noticeably higher scores in Terminus when using a Ruby friend vs a Raaga friend.)....At this point I'd rather wait for the units that would make Colt (and others) old news rather than dumping gems on units I can already do fine without.

Between all that and a hefty influx of older units (that most of us already have an assortment of) that are getting their 7-star forms, it is a great time to be picky and patient with summons imo.
 

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Patch on Thursday (wednesday night?) for more content. Alfa is finally in, RC4 being added. Let's do it.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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RC4 being added.
I wonder how pie-in-the-sky it would be to hope for Double Medals for RC4 once the other half of the missions are rolled out. Double medals for their first week would be bloody marvelous.....Bonus points if they did the roll out at the same time the Double XP/Half Energy bonuses wear off on the 15th and we want something different to spend our time on lol