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Iannis_sl said:
There is such a thing as too much foreshadowing.

When you're taking stills of the bookcase Jesse was looking at and reading plot into the names of books, things have gone full LOST. It's one of the things I like least about his writing. He intentionally encourages that sort of thing to engage the audience but... meh. It's just a matter of personal taste. I get it. It feels like like songs with obnoxious guitar solos in them to me. Even if the solo isn't that bad, did we really need a guitar solo right there? Did it really add anything? Or were you just padding your work and showing off?
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Or it was just a bookcase. There's been some foreshadowing, but I think most of it is just the audience trying to make every little scene part of some elaborate puzzle. There's a hundred books on that shelf, odds are you'll be able to relate a couple of them to how it eventually plays out in some way or another.

Kind of like the bible code that proved to be no more accurate than Moby Dick
 
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this is the true foreshadowing from the hank / jesse scenes. hank going to jail yo.
 
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People read way too much into this. The postulating is just annoying now.
 
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Tarrant_sl said:
I don't think so, now that Gomie knows about everything too and that DVD "confession" is floating around out there it could come back to him too easily.
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Gomez has known all along and is Saul's "guy" who was going to make Jesse disappear.
 
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Two things I was very disappointing in with the episode.

1) Not having the Hank confession to Gomez out there.
2) Not hearing at least in part, maybe in a montage type thing with timecuts, the Jessie confession. There are many parts that Hank probably doesn't know about yet, seeing his reaction to some of them would have been awesome.

So while I did enjoy the episode, in hindsight I think it took the super easy route by not showing those. Certainly the Gomez finding out about all this from Hank was one of the payoffs I was really hoping for.
 
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While it's more plausible to think Walt is initiating a hit out on Jesse or Hank, he could be setting up a hit on himself. Something along the lines of the uncle or Meth Damon 'kills' him, maybe spreading the rumor Walt refused to cook again and was killed because of that. Jesse could either see it or hear it down the grapevine, everything falls apart, and then the revenge comes down the road in the form of the M60.
 
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Skipping Jesse's confession is interesting. We have no idea what Jesse told Hank; maybe Walt and Jesse are working together to fuck Hank over.
 
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Vanderhoof_sl said:
Skipping Jesse's confession is interesting. We have no idea what Jesse told Hank; maybe Walt and Jesse are working together to fuck Hank over.
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My guess would be that it's supposed to be that he told Hank "everything", or that we're supposed to believe he told Hank everything. Having him go over every detail of every episode would take an entire episode and would be shitty tv since most of us already know it all
 
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precisely. it'd be boring as fuck to go over everything we've already seen, just to watch Hank go "oooo" and "ahhh", and "arrrg! i'm so mad"
 
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and i think it's cool that people get into it, start reading all kinds of clues, but all the foreshadowing, double layers, symbolism and whatnot is for the most part unintentional
 
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Vanderhoof_sl said:
Skipping Jesse's confession is interesting. We have no idea what Jesse told Hank; maybe Walt and Jesse are working together to fuck Hank over.
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Interesting thought. Jesse seems like a genuine actor in this though and I don't see what the upside is from him working with Walt. Maybe I'm forgetting something but the friction between him and Hank always seemed manufactured. Hank was pursuing them and was deflected by Walt/Jesse tricking him into going to see his wife in the hospital and Hank reacted like the badger he is and laid Jesse out.

Anyway, I don't really care about seeing Gomie respond to Hank since Gomie was never an interesting character and the actor isn't great. The only thing I wanted to see was Hank reacting to hearing about what happened with Tuco. Everything else Hank probably figured out by now.
 
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Hank already knew about Tuco. He only came across Tuco because he was tracking Jesse's car.
 
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We've already seen Hank's reaction to all of this stuff. The "I don't even know who I'm talkin' to" line was after he realized Walt was responsible for everything that's happened. Momentary shock followed by blinding rage. Knowing that Walt and Jesse actually saw Hank shoot Tuco wouldn't really change anything or probably even surprise him.
 
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No one wanted to see the whole confession, but shit like Tuco and stuff, a few moments like that I feel we deserved.
 
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We might still get that. This season is playing fast and loose with timelines.

Of all the fan theories on the ending, the one I have found most intriguing was the whole Nazis kidnap or otherwise force Jesse to cook for them and the ending that we are seeing with Walt is him taking on those Nazis either in retribution for what they did or to free Jesse. When Ellsworth sells him the gun he makes a big deal about it not going South over the border, and Walt says "It isn't leaving New Mexico" or something to that effect. And we see the Nazis moving their operation into NM. I don't know, I'm sure that isn't it, but that is the one I think hits closest to the mark.
 
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