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Lithose
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Yeah, heh. She shot the heroin in her veins, she addicted Jesse to heroin, she threatened Walt--but when Walt doesn't save her from an overdose of her own doing, somehow it's Walt's fault...Because his action happened to be at the end of this long chain of events.
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chaos
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Sorry for the post necro - just watched the episode last night so I'm catching up.
Also, I'm hoping we've now plumbed the depths of the retarded 'Pinkman v. WW' debate.
Pretty much. Listening to Holly say 'mama' over and over was pretty gut-wrenching. Reminded me of when my youngest got sick for the first time and she didn't have the words to describe how or what hurt. Just kept saying 'mommy' over and over.
Also, I'm hoping we've now plumbed the depths of the retarded 'Pinkman v. WW' debate.
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Jesse has dug his hole through stupidity and emotion. There are plenty of scenes where Aaron Paul just makes you feel sorry for the character based on the amount of guilt he carries around. He also seems to legitimately care about a cute single mom and her child while at the same time isn't an old cancer patient married to that bitch Skyler. Our demographic is going to relate to Jesse much more than Walt and that makes it easier to make excuses for him.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that reaction though. The most emotional (dur, here's that word again) scenes of the whole series center around his character. He's a fuck up and the reason for a lot of the folly but you still feel sorry for him. I don't think there's much to feel sorry about with Walt. But you're not really supposed to.
Am I off base there at all?
I don't think there is anything wrong with that reaction though. The most emotional (dur, here's that word again) scenes of the whole series center around his character. He's a fuck up and the reason for a lot of the folly but you still feel sorry for him. I don't think there's much to feel sorry about with Walt. But you're not really supposed to.
Am I off base there at all?
Walt does the wrong thing for the right reasons. Jesse does the right thing for the wrong reasons.
iannis
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I didn't see that so much as humanity as I saw it Walt accepting that doing all this crap "for his family" cost him his family. That's the deal he made and it's past unmaking.
That's why he set Skylar up to play the part of the abused intimidated wife. It's only worth it if Walt Jr and Holly come out of it rich. Marie is crazy petty and it's another "Skylar is a big fat bitch" moment that Skylar didn't protect her child from her own sister. It's like the whole thing with Walt taught her absolutely nothing.
If anyone saw that I'm telling Jr that the father he idolizes is a meth dealer revenge-ploy coming it should have been Skylar.
Any excuse to point out how worthless Skylar is.
That's why he set Skylar up to play the part of the abused intimidated wife. It's only worth it if Walt Jr and Holly come out of it rich. Marie is crazy petty and it's another "Skylar is a big fat bitch" moment that Skylar didn't protect her child from her own sister. It's like the whole thing with Walt taught her absolutely nothing.
If anyone saw that I'm telling Jr that the father he idolizes is a meth dealer revenge-ploy coming it should have been Skylar.
Any excuse to point out how worthless Skylar is.
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opiate82
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So I haven't followed this thread much so sorry if this theory has been floated:
At the very beginning of the season when Walt bought the big ass gun from Bobby Singer it is because he found out the Nazi's are keeping Jesse as a meth-making slave and he has a crisis of conscience and has decided to go in after Jesse big-ass-gun-a-blazin'
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I don't know, there are times when I feel for Walt. When he was begging Uncle Jack for Hank's life, I felt sorry for him. How could he be so stupid? But that is who Walt is. When he was choking up on his big phone call last episode. Every now and then he does things that make you remember who he was and how far he has come. Same with Jesse. I don't really feel for Jesse the murdering methhead moron who betrays people. But he does things or says things that send you back to the early episodes when they established his backstory, who this guy used to be and could have been. Shit is tragic.
I think the last 15 minutes of the show was all about showing Walt was not bad to the core. I think he intentionally took Holly to force the call at the end. In that call he basically put on the act that would separate Skyler and his family from any perceived wrong doing. She can stick to a 'life of fear' defense and just basically say she had to do it or else this would happen. He completely focused the entire blame on himself before skipping town without no doubt at all. It was clearly tearing him up inside because he didn't want to leave his family or say those things, but he had to protect them, and this is how.
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I do hope some of that barrel money makes it to Walt jr and holly in the end. If only so Walt can still feel this wasn't all for nothing ( tho his real goal was to build an empire, which he essentially did).
Last shot when credits roll should be Walt jr hobbling up to a door that says 'open after 18' and inside are stacks of cereal boxes as far as the eye can see
Last shot when credits roll should be Walt jr hobbling up to a door that says 'open after 18' and inside are stacks of cereal boxes as far as the eye can see
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Walt's definitely not a monster. When he killed Mike, he immediately regretted it and showed obvious remorse. Mike was a hitman who was going to kill Walt on multiple occasions.
Hank's only mission in life was to bring Walt down. Even then Walt was willing to give himself and all his money up in order to protect him.
As shitty as poisoning a kid is, if the choices are either that or have your own family die, then as a father you have to do it. I'd poison a 1000 kids if it was the only way to save my own child's life.
Hank's only mission in life was to bring Walt down. Even then Walt was willing to give himself and all his money up in order to protect him.
As shitty as poisoning a kid is, if the choices are either that or have your own family die, then as a father you have to do it. I'd poison a 1000 kids if it was the only way to save my own child's life.
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How did Walt get to know Mike? What did Walt do that caused Hank to go after him?
I read a bunch of the recaps about BB and I think a good angle was a theme of the show is intention vs action. You either fall on the side of seeing Walt's intentions for what he does and excusing his behavior to some degree, or you see the actions that he takes and condemn him.
Also from the Inside Breaking Bad podcast: Baby Holly saying "Mama" wasn't in the script. The kid saw her mom offscreen, started speaking, so they rolled film and Cranston went with it.