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khalid
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Was linked this by one of my students.
How one college went from 10% female computer-science majors to 40% Quartz
I do have some issues with some of the methods listed, but I found it an interesting read.
How one college went from 10% female computer-science majors to 40% Quartz
I do have some issues with some of the methods listed, but I found it an interesting read.
iannis
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Step 1) Rename the course title to something vagina friendly.
Step 1b) Operation "SIMMAH DOWN NERD. THIS IS THE CLOSEST YOU ARE EVER GOING TO GET TO REAL TITTIES."
Step 2) Teach them stuff
Step 2b) Show them that women can do this shit
If all it really takes is renaming stuff to "Creative (virtual) basket weaving", then hell lets weave some baskets.
Step 1b) Operation "SIMMAH DOWN NERD. THIS IS THE CLOSEST YOU ARE EVER GOING TO GET TO REAL TITTIES."
Step 2) Teach them stuff
Step 2b) Show them that women can do this shit
If all it really takes is renaming stuff to "Creative (virtual) basket weaving", then hell lets weave some baskets.
khalid
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The other issue I had was them saying "The female professors packed up the students and took them to the annual Grace Hopper Conference, which bills itself as a celebration of women in technology. ". So what about the male professors? Did only the female professors get the honor of taking their students to the conference?
However, the end result of many more women sounds good. They don't give hard numbers though, did this result in less males continuing on in the field?
However, the end result of many more women sounds good. They don't give hard numbers though, did this result in less males continuing on in the field?
iannis
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I bet not. Seems like you'd start a program like this because your department is running under capacity and you want to push more BS's than BA's. And then you can dress it up as increased opportunity for young women because that's also true. One of them win/win things if it works.
Or who knows. Maybe they're just being retarded. Equally possible.
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Tanoomba
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Interesting read, and also supportive of the idea that the environment is stronger than any supposed biological inclinations. Thanks for that.
Arbitrary
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For that to make sense it requires using only one definition of racism. From Dictionary.com -
1. A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. A policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. Hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
I'm not a big proponent of the use of dictionaries but that's a pretty accurate set of descriptions for how the word is used. If you hate someone based on their race that's a kind of racism. Justifications for hatred like that equation are just that, justifications for hatred.
1. A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. A policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. Hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
I'm not a big proponent of the use of dictionaries but that's a pretty accurate set of descriptions for how the word is used. If you hate someone based on their race that's a kind of racism. Justifications for hatred like that equation are just that, justifications for hatred.
Caliane
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haha. wtf.
1. Step one. penalize overachievers. Lower the bar for everyone!
2. Step two. Lie to students, and pretend programming is FUN! and you'll get to make video games!
There is totally a market for making Dance Dance revolution games for the elderly!
fanaskin
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Tanoomba
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Hmmm. I must have missed the part in the article where anyone was punished for anything, let alone overachievers. Can you show me where you found that?
Also, what "lies" were being told? It was never implied that "making video games" was the primary reason to learn programming, but even if it was, the school provided additional courses that allowed students to do just that. So they taught students a skill, then provided circumstances under which that skill could be used in a productive, useful, and (gasp!) fun way. Where's the misdirection here?
What's wrong with making a DDR game for the elderly? The Wii showed that many elderly people are willing to play games, and if doing so provides an opportunity for physical activity, what's the problem? Are you implying that anything less than using Python to cure cancer is a waste of time?
Some people just like to complain for the sake of complaining, I guess.
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Caliane
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Very clearly.
Segregation. Move the experienced away from the lesser. so instead of them helping the lesser.. you now have the lesser separated so they don't feel bad about themselves.
This is taken even further by taking the achievers aside and asking them to no longer participate openly.
I can hardly even laugh at the effects of that kind of negative reinforcement.
As for the games, that is no different from "tighten up the graphics on level 3."
You have any idea how many people go into that shit, because they want to make games?
This is increasing an artificial number, at the cost of the students education. About as stupid as "teaching for tests" that highschools do to meet quotas these days.
Arbitrary
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Negative reinforcement is not punishment.
And this isn't about punishing people. It's about telling the doofus that won't stop monopolizing the teacher's time I ALREADY KNOW HOW TO CODE *RAISE HAND* YOU COULD ALSO CODE THATTHISWAY I'VE WRITTEN LOTS OF MY OWN PROGRAMS ALREADY to shut up.
That guy. This is an intro class where we are here to learn the basics. No one gives a fuck that you already know this shit.
And this isn't about punishing people. It's about telling the doofus that won't stop monopolizing the teacher's time I ALREADY KNOW HOW TO CODE *RAISE HAND* YOU COULD ALSO CODE THATTHISWAY I'VE WRITTEN LOTS OF MY OWN PROGRAMS ALREADY to shut up.
That guy. This is an intro class where we are here to learn the basics. No one gives a fuck that you already know this shit.
Mist
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Moving the experienced away is a good idea when you're actually trying to teach people. Everyone just copied off me in the lab periods for my 200 level Java classes, because I already knew OOP from C++. The two guys I knew from high school would ask to see my homework projects and then they'd sell them to the rest of the class without me knowing it. No one in the class learned anything.
I do agree that the game stuff is a little more fitting for software engineer than CS. CS really isn't even about programming applications when you get down to it. It's really just a bunch of boring math theory classes. I really don't see the point of CS as a major for most people who want to go into programming or IT.