That it is. I just don't memorize lines from an episode about molestation (I guess I never even saw it either).
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Now think about this. The only statistics I am talking about are US public schools vs the GLOBAL Catholic church. I can't even imagine how many kids are molested in schools across the world, yet the ONLY problem people will admit to is the Catholic church.
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Which would mean there are at least 2 molesters at every public school? C'mon
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But this is like saying "There are 7 billion people on the planet. Think about how many molesters there are out there. There are only a few priests, so it's not really a problem". Doesn't change the fact that molesting kids is part of the church culture. The percentage of diddling priests FAR exceeds the background average
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If you ran a club of 20 people and 19 of them were child molesters, you don't get an out because your club is so small
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the problem is that PRIESTS have long been held in a higher regard...especially by the parents and therefore were given access to the children and were more trusted....beyond what public school teachers would be permitted....and when i say higher regard ...to the extreme
I see public school teachers in higher regard, now, than priests. Sure it may have been the opposite before but all these SJW's feel that teachers are like Mother Teresa except Mother Teresa probably diddle a boy or 100 of them because she believes in Jesus.
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That one in fifty quote was a fabrication, pretty much. The Vatican denied it, and the "interview" was not an actual interview (Just a conversation) and there was no transcription of the conversation. The actual numbers, from a survey the Catholic church paid for (If I recall correctly) put the abuse at 1-2% among all church staff (Which is what the discussion was abouty--Pope Francis then said that those numbers don't comfort him; and he's going to beat the pedophiles with a stick or some shit. I have two very catholic grandmothers, heh) . I have no idea what the abuse rate is within the population on the whole, so take that for what you will--I do believe it's higher within the church.
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No, she just perpetuated needless suffering on helpless cancer and leprosy victims. What a cunt.
What are SJWs though? I can't figure it out
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2%.... so, like, 1 in 50....
I do also wonder what the rates are in the general public though
Show me how you got to this math? Just the 1 in 50 extrapolated over to 100 people? How can you believe 1 in 50 for priests but not 1 in 50 from school teachers? Because you are conditioned to believe that. No possible way 2 teachers/faculty in a school could be molesting kids. You take 2 total priests for a church and they both could be the 1 in 50 statistic ....
You don't want to believe that the people you send an apple to and is doing after school tutoring with your kid could be molesting them. You saw on the news though that some adults said when they were kids that a priest touched them though and you get your pitchfork and hand your extra one to the teacher that is diddling your daughter and you don't know it.
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But, from what I understand, "Church staff" also means teachers and workers employed by the church (Don't forget, the Catholic school system is fairly massive). So the actual rate among priests, Bishops and the typical people you see actually associated with the abuse is much lower than 1 in 50 (Which is why he claims he never said it.)
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Well, ya, I averaged it out. Maybe one school has none and one lucky school gets 4 of their very own. I can believe the priests bit because we have numbers (sort of. What lithose said), but we don't have numbers for teachers besides what you say it is (or was it in a link? I honestly didn't look).
And I'm not sending shit to school. Kids are gross
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a_skeleton_03, tone it down a notch. Nobody is defending teachers who molest students.
Yes, there are less priests than teachers, but it seems likely that a higher percentage of priests molest children than do teachers.
I agree with Arbitrary. This is not a worthwhile conversation to have.
Yes, there are less priests than teachers, but it seems likely that a higher percentage of priests molest children than do teachers.
I agree with Arbitrary. This is not a worthwhile conversation to have.
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Multiple articles I linked .... hard statistics compared to speculation about priests.
You are seriously sitting here just shooting everything down based on your "feeling" that no way it could be right? Did you turn into some SJW cunt like Mist? Is the Catholic church your version of their hatred for men and so you can only accept negative things about them but not about women (public schools)?
I thought you were different.
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It is disturbing, but for different reasons for me. It disturbs me because in society we focus nearly all of our attention on "stranger danger" and other silly stuff. To the point where we don't allow men without kids in some parks, or men to sit on planes next to children and other just absurd "safeguards". But the reality is, the largest threat to your child isn't some stranger; it's a family member, or teacher or priest or someone who has a previous and trusting relationship with them. You should be far more wary of leaving your child with your in-laws, than of some random dude strolling through the park.
Humans have an amazing amount of hubris when it comes to "judging" character. We believe that if we've known someone for years, there would be signs that would clearly paint them as a pedophile. But that's just not the case. Pedophiles often operate around people they know well, and build lifelong relationships with the children they molest; often right under their parents nose...Yet no one is ever worried about Uncle Jack or Aunt Betty; it's always the odd guy with the camera (Even though he has as much a chance of harming your kids as lightning does.)
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Hey man, I admitted to not reading the links at least. I kinda jumped in the conversation late, so I apologize. I'll read your links. It was more your reasoning that the size of the church and absolute number of priest gives them a pass that I was arguing against anyway... I still don't know what an SJW is though
