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Loser Araysar

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My girlfriend has brought up marriage. This is a dark day.
 

Himeo

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I'm not really sure what the alternative is.

"We know you're like, technically equal and stuff now, but we still expect you to be demure, submissive and monogamous,because reasons?"
The alternative is the question, "What do men want and how can I provide it?".

Feminism's answer is: "I HAVE THE VAGINA, I MAKE THE RULES!"

As it turns out, having a vagina isn't enough.

If you're asking what the alternative for men is:

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Mist

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The alternative is the question, "What do men want and how can I provide it?".

Feminism's answer is: "I HAVE THE VAGINA, I MAKE THE RULES!"

As it turns out, having a vagina isn't enough.
Your argument has no merit.

Women having more-or-less equal say in how the 'rules' work means that there will be 'rules' you don't like.

That's how power works. Sometimes people with power will use that power to do things you don't like.
 

iannis

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They already do that though every time they don't present like a baboon in heat every time I walk past.

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!?!
 

fanaskin

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those societies that act more in unity will have tremendous advantage to the ones that act more in temporal self interest. I hope you plan on bringing this lifestyle to the rest of the planet by the barrel of a gun otherwise It can be viewed as tremendously short sided.
 

Loser Araysar

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Women need men more than men need women.

Men will eventually replace women with Sexbots (because lets face it, thats the sum of 99% of interest in women. I never heard a guy say he enjoys conversations with women) but women will always need someone to support them financially or to flatter their ego.
 

Himeo

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Your argument has no merit.

Women having more-or-less equal say in how the 'rules' work means that there will be 'rules' you don't like.

That's how power works. Sometimes people with power will use that power to do things you don't like.
Laws only matter if there are people around to enforce them.

Rome had a lot of laws. They aren't being enforced anymore.

Mist, my argument has merit because societies are subject to evolution like everything else.

Case in Point: Japan.

Up until the 2008 economic crisis, Japanese companies had a policy known as "Job-for-life". If you worked for a company, you could expect to keep your job as long as you worked hard.

Japanese men committed to working 12+ hour days because the health of the company was tied directly to their families well-being. They worked so much, it became socially acceptable for salary men to die from stress and exhaustion at their desks. This was considered honorable.

After the economic crisis, Japanese companies ended this practice. As a result 75% of men aged 20-40 have become herbivore men, and 60% of all adult males self-identify as herbivore men.

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Japanese men have gone on strike. They no longer give a fuck about working themselves to death or pursuing relationships.

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They live for themselves and their own happiness.

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Having a vagina, Mist darling, is not enough.
 

Mist

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those societies that act more in unity will have tremendous advantage to the ones that act more in temporal self interest.
How'd that unity shit work out for the communists?

What you're describing is actually more like utilitarianism which is completely opposed to libertarianism, the philosophy most MRA types espouse.

Women are acting exactly like how a liberal, free market society predicts they will act, and now these fedora wearing libertarians are flipping out about it.

Do you realize how hypocritical that is?
 

Mist

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Women need men more than men need women.

Men will eventually replace women with Sexbots (because lets face it, thats the sum of 99% of interest in women. I never heard a guy say he enjoys conversations with women) but women will always need someone to support them financially or to flatter their ego.
Apparently women can't be replaced with sexbots because 'real men' need to know they're suppressing someone or sex gets boring.

Meanwhile women would use the robots to do actual work, reproduce via turkey basters and replace sex with chocolate.

It'll be very easy to implant one ovum with the sex chromosomes from another ovum soon. We'll see who needs who.
 

fanaskin

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How'd that unity shit work out for the communists?

What you're describing is actually more like utilitarianism which is completely opposed to libertarianism, the philosophy most MRA types espouse.

Women are acting exactly like how a liberal, free market society predicts they will act, and now these fedora wearing libertarians are flipping out about it.

Do you realize how hypocritical that is?
they're going to win the long game with population and ability to mobilize their populations(if they can ever control the resources of eurasia), both mao and stalin did things that radically enhanced their long term prospects even in the face of fierce aggression.

american Libertarianism has it's limits as a philosophy, I dabbled with it for a while but ultimately I don't believe in that shit, it's an attitude based on frontier values, and there's no more frontiers atm, until mars opens up. when I read what you write sometimes there's hints of victims revenge in the way you express your ideas which is just cyclical and abusive, and undermines any concept of the superiority of empathic victims ideals.
 

Mist

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Japanese men have gone on strike. They no longer give a fuck about working themselves to death or pursuing relationships.

They live for themselves and their own happiness.

Having a vagina, Mist darling, is not enough.
If men want to go their own way, that's fine, nothing you described is women's fault.
 

fanaskin

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If men want to go their own way, that's fine, nothing you described is women's fault.
that's not fine and neither is it for large percentages of woman to try and go it alone parenting or replace family with career, that's the whole point, when self obsession overcomes what logically should be common goals.

carl sagan and a biologist had a debate about ability for humans to survive, sagan emphasized our cognitive capability in overcoming obstacles, the biologist pointed out the more intelligent the species the worse the aspects of survival become, the average length of history of the species drops as they become more intelligent. He posited because they become intelligent enough to start to view others of the same species as potential enemies instead of trying to help each other as much as possible even irrationally an think genetically more as a communal organism than as individual unit.
 

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Hard to 100% verify just yet but Michelle Czajkowski, Ava's Demon webcomic creator, deleted her personal tumblr after she was supposedly harassed by SJW for being insensitive towards asexuals and not showcasing asexuals in her comic.

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Mist

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when I read what you write sometimes there's hints of victims revenge in the way you express your ideas which is just cyclical and abusive, and undermines any concept of the superiority of empathic victims ideals.
I've never been a victim, I've never asked a man to support me and never been betrayed by one.

Equality is not revenge. But I like how you admit that women treating men like men have always treated women is abusive.

I'll agree with the MRA types up to the point that a woman should not expect a man to support her if she has nothing to offer him or treats him poorly.

But that just means that more women have to learn to support themselves, not that they need to go back to being submissive chattel for the good of society.
 

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I read what you write sometimes there's hints of victims revenge
Maybe she has already admitted it, but I'm 99% certain at this point that Mist was sexually abused by her step-father/mother's boyfriend. It's written all over her posts.
 

fanaskin

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I've never been a victim, I've never asked a man to support me and never been betrayed by one.
I don't think you have but you identify with those women who do just like unmarried mra's have an seemingly odd attachment in the other direction. like ugly people who don't fuck but who passionately champion abortion rights.


Equality is not revenge. But I like how you admit that women treating men like men have always treated women is abusive.

only really in the sense that there's an opportunity cost and people always pine for the greener grass on the other side of the road, because every change or choice has both positive and negative consequences. the closed society longs for freedom and the free society will often long for order.
 

Mist

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that's not fine and neither is it for large percentages of woman to try and go it alone parenting or replace family with career, that's the whole point, when self obsession overcomes what logically should be common goals.

carl sagan and a biologist had a debate about ability for humans to survive, sagan emphasized our cognitive capability in overcoming obstacles, the biologist pointed out the more intelligent the species the worse the aspects of survival become, the average length of history of the species drops as they become more intelligent. He posited because they become intelligent enough to start to view others of the same species as potential enemies instead of trying to help each other as much as possible even irrationally an think genetically more as a communal organism than as individual unit.
All that's going to happen is that relationships are going to be more fluidly transactional. This can really only benefit men as long as they still make more money.

Or capitalism will fall apart and we'll all serve the Qun.
 

Mist

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Maybe she's already admitted it, but I'm 99% certain at this point that Mist was sexually abused by her step-father/mother's boyfriend. It's written all over her posts.
Bull-fucking-shit. My stepdad was an awesome marine who taught me to shoot guns and dig trenches, DIY plumbing and electrical work, and fix cars. We also both like tattooed chicks, but not TOO many tattoos.

He was just an unbelievably lousy fucking husband and now I'm paying the price for that by spending the rest of my life trying to fix what he broke. So I've got some serious resentment but not in the way you're thinking. I've also never met my biological father, even though he doesn't even live 25 minutes from me. So yeah, I've got an axe to grind about men, sure.
 

Caliane

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I seriously can't tell if the last 6 pages or so has been trolling, or if people are actually serious.