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fanaskin

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Maybe she's already admitted it, but I'm 99% certain at this point that Mist was sexually abused by her step-father/mother's boyfriend. It's written all over her posts.
She actually believes the intellectual progressivism stuff for the most part, the problem I have with them in general is somebody has to be able to impose these changes on the rest of the globe or we'll get destroyed by barbarians like every other empire in history that softens itself and is overrun later in the end by harder people, somebody has to win the old game of nations first and the big problem that I see is you can really kill the golden goose changing culture without realizing it's unintended consequences.
 

Mist

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She actually believes the intellectual progressivism stuff for the most part, the problem I have with them in general is somebody has to be able to impose these changes on the rest of the globe or we'll get destroyed by barbarians like every other empire in history that softens itself and is overrun by harder men, somebody has to win the old game of nations first and the big problem that I see is you can really kill the golden goose trying to do it prematurely.
I'm way too cynical to actuallybelievein progressivism. Human institutions are bound by inevitable failure. The fact that progress keeps happening actually baffles me, I'm just trying to help explain it using the toolkit I have.

I'm way more of a transhumanist. Either science will make us into immortal geniuses and render all of these social, political, economic and especially environmental problems moot, or society will collapse under it's own weight. It's a simple math problem of resources vs rising population vs declining viability of earth as a habitat.
 

fanaskin

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the question I have is how long until they think just trying to keep people alive and happy with machine labor isn't worth it, it will get scary. When your survival depends on dole you're truly fucked, you have 0 leverage.
 

iannis

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The rise of the machines is a real thing.

I'm not even mocking you, fana. lol.

Shit's crazy. In 500 years, there are going to be a LOT fewer of us.

Glad I won't be alive for it. Fuck them to begin with.
 

Mist

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the question I have is how long until they think just trying to keep people alive and happy with machine labor isn't worth it, it will get scary. When your survival depends on dole you're truly fucked, you have 0 leverage.
That's why we always have to make sure the smart people are in charge. Smart people realize that intelligence is mostly a roll of the genetic/environmental lottery ball and that the society that can maintain the largest amount of well-fed, well-educated people with the maximal self-enrichment time will produce the most outlier geniuses and therefore the most progress. (I think even when everyone is on the dole, we will still look down on the people who aren't trying to reach their maximum potential.)

Basically, if we don't hit Star Trek level progressive ethics we're all going to end up dead anyway from the weight of our own failure, so let's try to do that because there's no other viable options.

But just because it's our only viable option doesn't mean I actually think we'll rise to the challenge.
 

Famm

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Bull-fucking-shit. My stepdad was an awesome marine who taught me to shoot guns and dig trenches, DIY plumbing and electrical work, and fix cars. We also both like tattooed chicks, but not TOO many tattoos.
So either way he did help turn you into a dyke.
 

Mist

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Na, I'm really blaming that one on catholic school. Plaid skirts + stockings + shiny shoes + no boys is a dangerous and powerful combination.

Me being a dyke just made it a lot easier for him to relate to me. We probably wouldn't have had much of a relationship at all if I wasn't.
 

Loser Araysar

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OH HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU WERE A CATHOLIC SCHOOLGIRL?

DO YOU STILL HAVE THE UNIFORM?
Here you go

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Kirun

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He was just anunbelievably lousy fucking husbandand nowI'mpaying the price for that by spending the rest ofmylife trying to fix whathebroke. So I've got some serious resentment.
So, yeah, exactly what Fana said - victim's revenge. Or, you at leastfeellike a victim.
 

Himeo

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When did I ever claim to be a victim?It's the men that are claiming to be victims of equality.
Men can't be victims.

Also, you posted this a page or so back:

[My stepdad] was just an unbelievably lousy fucking husband and now I'm paying the price for that by spending the rest of my life trying to fix what he broke. So I've got some serious resentment but not in the way you're thinking. I've also never met my biological father, even though he doesn't even live 25 minutes from me. So yeah, I've got an axe to grind about men, sure.