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khorum
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I've moved on from 3D-printed receivers actually. Been testing my 3D-printable Zippe-type centrifuge. It's small so it can be printed from most open-source reprap printers, but it can refine up to 20 grams of fissile uranium a month.
Mist
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As opposed to everyone else here, who thinks that anonymous, well designed self-report surveys from a premier research institution are feels-data, but a bottom tier government worker going around door to door asking if anyone in your house has been raped is lately is official facts, even though they disagree with just about every other statistical report the government produces.
iannis
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It being the best information available and it being the best information are two different things.
It's about as scientific as you can get by asking 500 freshman girls if they want to fill out a health questionare and email it back to you. And then do it twice more. That -might- be indicative of the culture of the university being studied, but you really are making an easily avoided error by trying to make anything more of it than that.
How big is that school anyway? How many people generally opt out of these things? General population I would think an majority can't be assed. But if they're all polisci majors then maybe that ratio changes.
The way you're trying to use it, it IS feels data. 1 in 5 freshman girls are raped(*, **, ***) *- not actually 1 in 5. ** -- based on 500 self selected respondents ***- cannot possibly be extrapolated into a general trend.
And I still have a problem with past trauma being indicative of future susceptibility. How do you separate that possibility (which is real) from the possibility of past trauma influencing future perception (which is also real)? You can't get that out of a questionare. You can't unless they had a direct and pointed question about exactly that -- and if they did... why? Of what use would that be for a survey? That question is of good use to a therapist, but useless in regards to a study of rape in a population.
It's about as scientific as you can get by asking 500 freshman girls if they want to fill out a health questionare and email it back to you. And then do it twice more. That -might- be indicative of the culture of the university being studied, but you really are making an easily avoided error by trying to make anything more of it than that.
How big is that school anyway? How many people generally opt out of these things? General population I would think an majority can't be assed. But if they're all polisci majors then maybe that ratio changes.
The way you're trying to use it, it IS feels data. 1 in 5 freshman girls are raped(*, **, ***) *- not actually 1 in 5. ** -- based on 500 self selected respondents ***- cannot possibly be extrapolated into a general trend.
And I still have a problem with past trauma being indicative of future susceptibility. How do you separate that possibility (which is real) from the possibility of past trauma influencing future perception (which is also real)? You can't get that out of a questionare. You can't unless they had a direct and pointed question about exactly that -- and if they did... why? Of what use would that be for a survey? That question is of good use to a therapist, but useless in regards to a study of rape in a population.
khorum
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No actually, the last few pages is a good example of the sort of "rapes" that's been going on is places like Columbia and UVA.
You got a boisterous, angry bluehair who wanders into a pack of friendly guys and feels the friendliness emanating from all their friendly forum faces. She gets into a stimulating and enjoyable but simultaneously pointed and challenging situation. Her inner SJW keeps blaring the dick-kryptonite, but her NEED for facts is undeniable and once provided with irrefutable data, the moment climaxes to everyone's mutual satisfaction:
But on that pre-dawn walk of shame the inner SJW emerges and she starts doubting the night's events. She starts thinking she didn't get her full equity from that exchange. Nope, it definitely wasn't as mutually enriching as it felt, she was OPPRESSED into thinking that! It must've been RAPE!
Then a few hours later the bros get a text saying "Forum-rape me in the but."
You got a boisterous, angry bluehair who wanders into a pack of friendly guys and feels the friendliness emanating from all their friendly forum faces. She gets into a stimulating and enjoyable but simultaneously pointed and challenging situation. Her inner SJW keeps blaring the dick-kryptonite, but her NEED for facts is undeniable and once provided with irrefutable data, the moment climaxes to everyone's mutual satisfaction:
But on that pre-dawn walk of shame the inner SJW emerges and she starts doubting the night's events. She starts thinking she didn't get her full equity from that exchange. Nope, it definitely wasn't as mutually enriching as it felt, she was OPPRESSED into thinking that! It must've been RAPE!
Then a few hours later the bros get a text saying "Forum-rape me in the but."
Mist
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Survey was 500 freshman girls, ~26% of the girls in the freshman class. Representative sample based on relevant demographic data like race and major. Not a self-selected sample. School was a >10k student school in upstate NY, that's the most she would tell me via email.
On your last point, any variance in perception should balance out over a sample size that large. The questions used weren't really open for interpretation anyway, that's the whole point of them asking specific questions about specific behaviors and then discarding groping and stare-rape and sex-nagging from the figures.
I've actually taken all the undergraduate and graduate level research methods courses and survey design courses. They avoided all the obvious and most of the non-obvious pitfalls in that study.
Something really fucked is going on at that school. I'm absolutely sure they hunted around for the rapiest school they could find in the north east region. But if you actually repeated this methodology at 40 schools nation wide, with a representative sample of public and private, I'm sure you could get a much better picture of the campus rape issue than any of those previous studies.
Cad
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Holy fucking shit. Have you guys actually read all of the Nungesser complaint against Columbia and the administrators? Nevermind the Emma bitch, I hope she is unemployable after this but you never know. But look at this.
Columbia did nothing after the accusers outed Nungesser to the student newspaper, posted his name online, had the new york times and Post out him, in blatant breach of the confidentiality policy surrounding those sexual assault hearings.
She did finally go to the police by the way - nearly 2 years after the alleged assault. In the assault she claims he choked her, slapped her, and penetrated her anally against her will. Haha what the fuck. Its hard to get into the ass when the chick is cooperating and you have lube and everything is working. I always wondered how it ends up working when the chick is fighting or you have to choke her to get her to hold still. Not that rape is funny but I always thought to myself that is harder than it looks.
Anyway when she went to the police, they interviewed Nungesser and they declined to bring charges. She then publicly stated that she "decided not to bring charges because it would have taken 9 months to a year to get to court and by that time she would have graduated and just wanted to put this behind her, so she decided to let it go"... meanwhile the Sex Crimes Unit had actually decided not to bring any charges. This bitch is a piece of work.
It was actually one of her professors that helped her design the mattress project as her senior thesis (what the fuck kind of degree did she get, Art? haha, figures) and defame Nungesser with it. Columbia did nothing about this, despite finding him not responsible for her sexual assault. They then allowed a professor and student to defame him openly in the media and on campus.
Emma specifically acknowledged that her "art" wasn't about art, but was about shaming and trying to get Nungesser expelled or threatened enough to get him removed from campus.
The President of Columbia expressed public support for Emma and her "struggle", but none for Nungesser.
This story is more fucked up the more I read about it. People have just sat back and allowed her to shit on this dude without a shred of proof he did anything wrong.
Unbelievable!
Columbia did nothing after the accusers outed Nungesser to the student newspaper, posted his name online, had the new york times and Post out him, in blatant breach of the confidentiality policy surrounding those sexual assault hearings.
She did finally go to the police by the way - nearly 2 years after the alleged assault. In the assault she claims he choked her, slapped her, and penetrated her anally against her will. Haha what the fuck. Its hard to get into the ass when the chick is cooperating and you have lube and everything is working. I always wondered how it ends up working when the chick is fighting or you have to choke her to get her to hold still. Not that rape is funny but I always thought to myself that is harder than it looks.
Anyway when she went to the police, they interviewed Nungesser and they declined to bring charges. She then publicly stated that she "decided not to bring charges because it would have taken 9 months to a year to get to court and by that time she would have graduated and just wanted to put this behind her, so she decided to let it go"... meanwhile the Sex Crimes Unit had actually decided not to bring any charges. This bitch is a piece of work.
It was actually one of her professors that helped her design the mattress project as her senior thesis (what the fuck kind of degree did she get, Art? haha, figures) and defame Nungesser with it. Columbia did nothing about this, despite finding him not responsible for her sexual assault. They then allowed a professor and student to defame him openly in the media and on campus.
Emma specifically acknowledged that her "art" wasn't about art, but was about shaming and trying to get Nungesser expelled or threatened enough to get him removed from campus.
The President of Columbia expressed public support for Emma and her "struggle", but none for Nungesser.
This story is more fucked up the more I read about it. People have just sat back and allowed her to shit on this dude without a shred of proof he did anything wrong.
Unbelievable!
Mist
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I can't tell who's doing a larger disservice to women in the long run, Mattress Girl or Ellen Pao.
Pretty sure it's Mattress Girl though.
Ignatius
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Poor mattress girl just cant stop getting raped at college.
Columbia President Ignores Emma Sulkowicz -- The Cut
Columbia President Ignores Emma Sulkowicz -- The Cut
Cad
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Yea, eight months she waited to file the initial complaint at columbia too. And never considered going to the cops. She just wanted him expelled, she didn't care about criminal charges. She only pursued the criminal charges angle when she realized she could use that further smear his name.
Cad
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No but I'm going to be in NY for a few cases over the next few months and I'm going to check the docket on Nungessar's case before I go each time, and if there happens to be a hearing during time I am there, I will go watch it. Fucking circus this is.
Cad
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All Columbia is going to do is say the professor is free to practice art as they saw fit, that they can't control Emma's actions, and they chose not to punish her for breaking the privacy policy because reasons. The case will in all likelihood fizzle out. Doubt it survives motion to dismiss. But it'll be fun to watch anyways!
khalid
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Aaron
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heheheh... you said "mount" hehehe...
But seriously, I don't think the dude's chances are good. And even if he does win he probably won't get too much cash after lawyer fees and his life is still practically ruined. That's what you get for sticking your dick in the anus of crazy.
Cad
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This is one of those cases where I don't think he'll win, but not because he's wrong. It's because the school just doesn't have a lot of duties that they could have violated here. He's going after Title IX gender discrimination saying he was treated differently because she was female and he's male. I dunno, he might have a point there because they probably do systemically treat female victims differently than male victims. He needs to start finding cases where males have filed complaints and the good treatment followed the female.
The schools IMO need to basically follow the police here. If you get convicted of a rape on campus (or not on campus, rapist is a rapist), then expel. Otherwise, it's not our business.
The schools IMO need to basically follow the police here. If you get convicted of a rape on campus (or not on campus, rapist is a rapist), then expel. Otherwise, it's not our business.
AladainAF
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