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khorum_sl said:
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Yeah and you won't face the fact that I debunked 4 of your points in a single post, irrefutably, because you know there's absolutely no comeback.
 
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Mist_sl said:
What you are totally missing is that it's possible, and actual more likely, for someone who is victimized via intoxication to also be a victim of forcible rape, either from the same perpetrator or another one.
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What you're totally missing is that this is still a giant non sequitor that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion you and I are having.

Your claim: Most rapes on college campuses are conducted by evil predators who seek out victims, isolate them, and then rape them silly before moving on to the next victim, all the while knowing that no freshman girl has the cajones to report them.

My claim: I don't believe you. I think most college rapes are the result of a hook up gone wrong under the influence of too much alcohol.

My claim has facts backing it up.

You claim has "Muh feels" and distractive arguments unrelated to the discussion at hand.

And I quote

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Almost all rape is done by acquaintances, much like almost all child kidnappings and child molestation are done by family members. Victimization by strangers is very rare.
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Are you really this fucking dense? Like seriously?Do you have any concept of how predators operate at all? Predators are constantly looking for new vulnerable victims to victimize.

It's this kind of attitude and general display of ignorance that's perpetuating the 'rape crisis' moral panic. While rapes are most likely going down in general, the absolute dismissive attitude and general lack of awareness towards rapes and rape victims is reaching absurd proportions due in part to the media's irresponsible reporting of obviously fake rape claims.
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Are you drunk right now or just stupid?The general modus operandi of any kind of predator, but especially a sexual predator, is to identify a victim, get close to the victim, isolate them from any social support structure they have, then take advantage of them as long as you can get away with, then repeat.

College freshmen are especially vulnerable because they generally don't have local social support structures like friends or family or general self-confidence, and they're eager to meet new people to try to overcome that. The predator uses the victim's eagerness to establish themselves in a new social setting and turns that back against the victim.

Further, there's almost no incentive for a freshman girl to report a rape if they're NOT a giant attention whore.They're going to isolate themselves from potential new social contacts by doing so. Also, if they report, their family is going to find out, and depending on the specifics of their family and culture that could result in being shamed or outcast, or not trusted to manage their own life, or being pulled out of school completely by 'concerned' parents. If they're not an attention whore, any satisfaction they might get from seeing justice done to the perpetrator is massively outweighed by the sum total of the costs to themselves, and any attention brought to themselves would be unwanted. Skilled sexual predators know all of these things.
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Mist_sl said:
Yeah and you won't face the fact that I debunked 4 of your points in a single post, irrefutably, because you know there's absolutely no comeback.
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Your magisterial takedown of my chipotle burrito hypothesis? That one?

Get it now?
 
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The other thing you guys don't get is that I have absolutely no life, and wasting time arguing with me on a Saturday night is just wasting your own time.
 
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hodj_sl said:
What you're totally missing is that this is still a giant non sequitor that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion you and I are having.

Your claim: Most rapes on college campuses are conducted by evil predators who seek out victims, isolate them, and then rape them silly before moving on to the next victim, all the while knowing that no freshman girl has the cajones to report them.

My claim: I don't believe you. I think most college rapes are the result of a hook up gone wrong under the influence of too much alcohol.

My claim has facts backing it up.

You claim has "Muh feels" and distractive arguments unrelated to the discussion at hand.

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I'd be curious to see a survey of how many women who do not drink alcohol were raped/attempted during their college years.
 
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hodj_sl said:
What you're totally missing is that this is still a giant non sequitor that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion you and I are having.

Your claim: Most rapes on college campuses are conducted by evil predators who seek out victims, isolate them, and then rape them silly before moving on to the next victim, all the while knowing that no freshman girl has the cajones to report them.

My claim: I don't believe you. I think most college rapes are the result of a hook up gone wrong under the influence of too much alcohol.

My claim has facts backing it up.
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I'm not even talking about those encounters in the category of rapes. Just like I'm not talking about stare rape, groping, really persistent nagging, or anything else other than forcible rape or threats of force.
 
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If I wasn't here going round and round I'd be on facebook doing the same thing. My wife works weekend nights so yeah.

Really should figure out this video editing program and start making some videos for youtube where I bitch about Joshua Feuerstein and the Duggars. That seems to be all the rage nowadays.

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I'm not even talking about those encounters in the category of rapes.
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Again: This is exactly what we were talking about, college rape statistics. Why do you want to ignore 90% of college rapes, to focus on a tiny percentage you can't even put a number on that fit a more traditional motif?

Because that doesn't allow you to push your false narrative of the "epidemic of college rapes".

In fact you're now essentially agreeing with me that the majority of the "locate, isolate, and rape into submission" cases are NOT related to college campuses at all!

Could you BE any more inconsistent?

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khorum_sl said:
Where else would you be? Raping freshmen?
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I have nowhere else to be because I have no life. I'm wondering what you fucks are doing wasting your time arguing with me.

Shouldn't you be like, 3d printing firearms or something?
 
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Mist is now going with the "Hurr durr I was just trolling you guys" argument.

Sad Mist. Very sad.
 
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I work Wed through Sun. My weekends are Mon and Tue. Rest assured I'll be out drinking and watching Mad Max in a day or so, but for now I have a few minutes to make fun of you for being wrong and to congratulate Khorum on an argument well dominated.
 
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hodj_sl said:
If I wasn't here going round and round I'd be on facebook doing the same thing. My wife works weekend nights so yeah.

Really should figure out this video editing program and start making some videos for youtube where I bitch about Joshua Feuerstein and the Duggars. That seems to be all the rage nowadays.




Again: This is exactly what we were talking about, college rape statistics. Why do you want to ignore 90% of college rapes, to focus on a tiny percentage you can't even put a number on that fit a more traditional motif?

Because that doesn't allow you to push your false narrative of the "epidemic of college rapes".

In fact you're now essentially agreeing with me that the majority of the "locate, isolate, and rape into submission" cases are NOT related to college campuses at all!

Could you BE any more inconsistent?
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I'm being pretty consistent. The Carey et al study showed rates of forcible rape much higher than previous estimates thought, and used a much more thorough method of identifying forcible rape and throwing out other lesser behaviors. The sample size was very large, their methodology the best I've seen for a self-report survey (was not interview, khorum.) So it's either an extremely egregious example of a dangerous campus, or a significant new data point on the number of forcible rapes.
 
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Mist_sl said:
I AM trolling you. I am not JUST trolling you, though. I am trolling with purpose.
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Not really, on either count

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I'm being pretty consistent. The Carey et al study showed rates of forcible rape much higher than previous estimates thought, and used a much more thorough method of identifying forcible rape and throwing out other lesser behaviors. The sample size was very large, their methodology the best I've seen for a self-report survey (was not interview, khorum.) So it's either an extremely egregious example of a dangerous campus, or a significant new data point on the number of forcible rapes.
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No, you haven't. We weren't talking about forcible rape exclusively or at all. We were talking about your assertion that rapists in college isolate their victims and segregate them from their friends, which is quantitatively debunked by the Campus Rape statistics.
 
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hodj_sl said:
Not really, on either count



No, you haven't. We weren't talking about forcible rape exclusively or at all. We were talking about your assertion that rapists in college isolate their victims and segregate them from their friends, which is quantitatively debunked by the Campus Rape statistics.
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How is that 'debunked' by random stats you found on google, pulled from a bunch of random studies with no consistent methodology?

Again, you guys would fail community college level research methods.
 
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