Are you saying it's impossible for men to just to error on the side of basic human decency in borderline cases? You're just insulting yourself and your own gender by saying you can't take the high road because the only way you can get sex is to take advantage a girl in a vulnerable state.
You fag, no one is saying men should be exploiting women. We are saying it's not fucking rape. Get it in your tiny trolling skull.
Men can DEFINITELY be raped by women in these situations of questionable judgement. I was using gender neutral language AND conceding the point of both parties being drunk until people Cad started talking like an absolute psychopath.
But I wasn't even drunk, it was like an hour into the party!? I didn't even know she was drunk she came from another party sloshed already, it was only 20 minutes after she came to* the party! I need to know who molested who!?
When I say exploit or take advantage of, I just mean convince them by talking or ordinary seduction techniques that probably wouldn't work that well if the woman were sober.
No, we're specifically talking about situations where one party doesn't know exactly what they're doing. That's the whole fucking point of the argument. If one party isn't exactly aware of what they're doing, it's rape. That's the whole fucking definition of consent.
She'd be responsible for any crimes committed because if there is a crime, there needs to be a guilty party. In this case, we've got a guilty party, YOU.
You do a disservice to all humans, you should probably stay out of the argument entirely. By the very act of participating in any discussion, you make your side look worse.
Now we've come to shaming. If you fuck drunk girls you aren't a real man. Don't you know that women instantly become children around the presence of alcohol? C'mon, go one step further. Call women who go out and have a few drinks and engage in casual sex whores. You know you want to. Don't stop the blame train now. It makes you feel insecure to think about sexually liberated women engaging in casual sex. That doesn't even count! How dare men in the exact same setting be interested in having them as partners! I should be the one getting their masculine attention. I'm not some stupid drunk whore. I have all these amazing qualities. I'm a smart and articulate gamer girl and those brain dead idiots with their tans and abs can't see the true me because there's always some whore grinding on their junk.
Actually every time you visit a whore, by Mist's definition, you're raping them. Their judgment is impaired by your money. They can't be expected to act rationally or be responsible. By inducing them to have sex with you for money, you're raping them. OBVIOUSLY
