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Arbitrary_sl said:
Now we've come to shaming. If you fuck drunk girls you aren't a real man. Don't you know that women instantly become children around the presence of alcohol? C'mon, go one step further. Call women who go out and have a few drinks and engage in casual sex whores. You know you want to. Don't stop the blame train now. It makes you feel insecure to think about sexually liberated women engaging in casual sex. That doesn't even count! How dare men in the exact same setting be interested in having them as partners! I should be the one getting their masculine attention. I'm not some stupid drunk whore. I have all these amazing qualities. I'm a smart and articulate gamer girl and those brain dead idiots with their tans and abs can't see the true me because there's always some whore grinding on their junk.

Yes, yes Mist. Let the hate flow through you. You know what you should do? You should try and hurt as many of those men as you can.
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I think anyone, of any gender, that gets intoxicated and puts themselves into dangerous situations is an irresponsible idiot, but I don't go so far as to say they deserve to be raped, unlike you psychopaths.

Now that I've got all the ammo I need, let's turn this around real fast and use your own ammo against you.

Say you got drunk, of your own free will, and someone took your wallet or took your keys and stole your car, or broke into your house, would you not call the cops and report a crime? Would you just sit there saying saying you deserved to be taken advantage of and stolen from and put all the blame on yourself?

BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING WOMEN TO DO. They're the victim of a fucking crime. Yes they were in a compromised state, but something of theirs was violated by the willful aggression of someone else willing to take advantage of that compromised state.

I hope the next time you're drunk, someone takes your keys, breaks into your house and kills your fucking dog. You're damn fucking right I hate, I hate people like you because you fucking deserve every last drop of it.
 
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I'll grant you that chicks scream rape at anything and everything, but if you can find me some case law saying "drunk = no consent" then I'm with you. Until then, shut the fuck up you fucking imbecilic twat.
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There was a flyer posted in the men's room of my local saying that people can't legally give consent while drunk. I remember cause someone drew a dick on it
 
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If someone who's drunk tells you they're fine and is about to go get in their car, do you take their keys and call them a cab or do you let them go on their merry way? They're an adult after all, and they said they're fine. They're not of the right mind to make that call though, just like someone who's drunk isn't in the right mind to give consent for sexy time. Invalid or no consent? Probably rape. As for how drunk one would have to be for that to apply, I have no idea. How someone's supposed to tell if another person's too drunk to consent, I have no idea there either. Some chick getting slightly buzzed and deciding to let the whole football team run a train on her and regretting it the next day? Yeah, probably not rape. Obviously, it's not that cut and dry, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that someone can be intoxicated enough while still being conscious to not be able to give proper consent. At the same time, I wouldn't say it's really someone's fault if a drunk person initiates with them. Again, how does one tell for sure whether someone's able to consent or not. Maybe someone can make a breathalyzer app for that!
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the problem with that in the court is that the alleged victim's claims are not as solid as we'd like to believe because if they are indeed incapable of making proper and willful decisions, then how can we trust their accusation in the first place? It becomes a sudden death match of he said she said and jury will naturally find the alleged rapist as innocent and they lose. I as a jury will also conclude that the accuser's accounts are not believable due to her state and the act of rape is no longer held valid. That's what I found most intriguing about this girl who i talked to who, believably, says she was raped and outlined her case for me.

best advice is: don't get fucking drunk or have a buddy next to you at all times. Like the designated driver.
 
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Mist_sl said:
Say you got drunk, of your own free will, and someone took your wallet or took your keys and stole your car, or broke into your house, would you not call the cops and report a crime? Would you just sit there saying saying you deserved to be taken advantage of and stolen from and put all the blame on yourself?

BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING WOMEN TO DO. They're the victim of a fucking crime. Yes they were in a compromised state, but something of theirs was violated by the willful aggression of someone else willing to take advantage of that compromised state.
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What if I "felt" those things happened to me but couldn't prove it?
 
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Mist_sl said:
I think anyone, of any gender, that gets intoxicated and puts themselves into dangerous situations is an irresponsible idiot, but I don't go so far as to say they deserve to be raped, unlike you psychopaths.

Now that I've got all the ammo I need, let's turn this around real fast and use your own ammo against you.

Say you got drunk, of your own free will, and someone took your wallet or took your keys and stole your car, or broke into your house, would you not call the cops and report a crime? Would you just sit there saying saying you deserved to be taken advantage of and stolen from and put all the blame on yourself?

BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING WOMEN TO DO. They're the victim of a fucking crime. Yes they were in a compromised state, but something of theirs was violated by the willful aggression of someone else willing to take advantage of that compromised state.

I hope the next time you're drunk, someone takes your keys, breaks into your house and kills your fucking dog. You're damn fucking right I hate, I hate people like you because you fucking deserve every last drop of it.
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how do trolls get so rustled. i do not understand.
 
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Mist_sl said:
I think anyone, of any gender, that gets intoxicated and puts themselves into dangerous situations is an irresponsible idiot, but I don't go so far as to say they deserve to be raped, unlike you psychopaths.

Now that I've got all the ammo I need, let's turn this around real fast and use your own ammo against you.

Say you got drunk, of your own free will, and someone took your wallet or took your keys and stole your car, or broke into your house, would you not call the cops and report a crime? Would you just sit there saying saying you deserved to be taken advantage of and stolen from and put all the blame on yourself?

BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING WOMEN TO DO. They're the victim of a fucking crime. Yes they were in a compromised state, but something of theirs was violated by the willful aggression of someone else willing to take advantage of that compromised state.

I hope the next time you're drunk, someone takes your keys, breaks into your house and kills your fucking dog. You're damn fucking right I hate, I hate people like you because you fucking deserve every last drop of it.
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Hold up there, false equivalence!

It'd be more akin to me getting drunk, someone asking if they could borrow 20 bucks, and I let them, knowing DAMN WELL they are a poor credit risk. I'm drunk, I'm not thinking straight, but I totally said yes and voluntarily gave that dude 20 bucks.

And while we're hoping, I hope some man gives you the forcible rape you deserve so that you can understand the difference between that and a chick getting drunk and having regretful but consenting sex.
 
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Mist_sl said:
I think anyone, of any gender, that gets intoxicated and puts themselves into dangerous situations is an irresponsible idiot, but I don't go so far as to say they deserve to be raped, unlike you psychopaths.

Now that I've got all the ammo I need, let's turn this around real fast and use your own ammo against you.

Say you got drunk, of your own free will, and someone took your wallet or took your keys and stole your car, or broke into your house, would you not call the cops and report a crime? Would you just sit there saying saying you deserved to be taken advantage of and stolen from and put all the blame on yourself?

BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING WOMEN TO DO. They're the victim of a fucking crime. Yes they were in a compromised state, but something of theirs was violated by the willful aggression of someone else willing to take advantage of that compromised state.

I hope the next time you're drunk, someone takes your keys, breaks into your house and kills your fucking dog. You're damn fucking right I hate, I hate people like you because you fucking deserve every last drop of it.
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I like your analogy. Last time I had sex, I stole a girls vagina and had sex with it. I mailed it back the next morning, because Im not that much of an asshole.
 
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Jais_sl said:
What if I "felt" those things happened to me but couldn't prove it?
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If any evidence of the crime existed, you would still want to have it investigated, and if the perpetrator was identified, you would still want a judge or jury to rule on the case.

I'm not saying the accuser should be always found right or the accused always found guilty; that's what we have investigations and courts for, to determine guilt. But a reportable crime definitely happened. And you wouldn't worry about what would happen to the reputation of the guy who stole your car if you accused him, yet woman are constantly asked to think of the reputation of the men they accuse of crimes before filing a police report.
 
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Mist_sl said:
I think anyone, of any gender, that gets intoxicated and puts themselves into dangerous situations is an irresponsible idiot, but I don't go so far as to say they deserve to be raped, unlike you psychopaths.

Now that I've got all the ammo I need, let's turn this around real fast and use your own ammo against you.

Say you got drunk, of your own free will, and someone took your wallet or took your keys and stole your car, or broke into your house, would you not call the cops and report a crime? Would you just sit there saying saying you deserved to be taken advantage of and stolen from and put all the blame on yourself?

BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING WOMEN TO DO. They're the victim of a fucking crime. Yes they were in a compromised state, but something of theirs was violated by the willful aggression of someone else willing to take advantage of that compromised state.

I hope the next time you're drunk, someone takes your keys, breaks into your house and kills your fucking dog. You're damn fucking right I hate, I hate people like you because you fucking deserve every last drop of it.
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It's not rape no matter how many times you say it is. Blame all the stupid whores that are always getting the attention of the men you want attention from. Blame the men for spending time with other women instead of you. But don't call it rape. You are doing a disservice to the actual victims of rape when you lump in with them some chick who gets drunk and fucks someone she might not have otherwise fucked.

Here's another stunner for you - BEING SEXUALLY AGGRESSIVE IS NOT GENDER DIRECTIONAL
 
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Arbitrary_sl said:
It's not rape no matter how many times you say it is. Blame all the stupid whores that are always getting the attention of the men you want attention from. Blame the men for spending time with other women instead of you. But don't call it rape. You are doing a disservice to the actual victims of rape when you lump in with them some chick who gets drunk and fucks someone she might not have otherwise fucked.

Here's another stunner for you - BEING SEXUALLY AGGRESSIVE IS NOT GENDER DIRECTIONAL
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You didn't answer my points at all. How is it different from the example I gave?
 
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Your points are that men are sexual aggressors that prey on drunk women and that if a woman drinks and has sex than she was raped. Those aren't points.

See also - Cad and his 20 dollar bill example
 
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Mist_sl said:
If any evidence of the crime existed, you would still want to have it investigated, and if the perpetrator was identified, you would still want a judge or jury to rule on the case.

I'm not saying the accuser should be always found right or the accused always found guilty; that's what we have investigations and courts for, to determine guilt. But a reportable crime definitely happened. And you wouldn't worry about what would happen to the reputation of the guy who stole your car if you accused him, yet woman are constantly asked to think of the reputation of the men they accuse of crimes before filing a police report.
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They are asked to think if the reputation of the man because of the shit they will go through once they start the process, you trolling faggot. It's like giving them an advice about what is about to happen and what you will be going through. Let's not fucking forget Duke Lacrosse case where he was falsely accused and his reputation completely fucking destroyed despite the fact that the accuser willfully admitted her lies. And all the free shit the cunt got for making false accusation. You make me sick, you cunt.
 
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Mist_sl said:
If any evidence of the crime existed, you would still want to have it investigated, and if the perpetrator was identified, you would still want a judge or jury to rule on the case.

I'm not saying the accuser should be always found right or the accused always found guilty; that's what we have investigations and courts for, to determine guilt. But a reportable crime definitely happened. And you wouldn't worry about what would happen to the reputation of the guy who stole your car if you accused him, yet woman are constantly asked to think of the reputation of the men they accuse of crimes before filing a police report.
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Now, neverminding all that other bullshit for a second... think about the proof problem with rape. How exactly do you prove that consent wasn't given? Unless the guy did it in front of a crowd, isn't it always going to be he-said she-said unless he also batters her? If she's drunk, how do you prove she was too drunk to consent? Remember the standard of proof in a criminal case is beyond a reasonable doubt, which is far more than "likely." Also remember the defendant is presumed innocent until he is PROVEN guilty.

How do you prove these crimes? If you want to know why they say "think of his reputation", its because a large number of rape cases are filed and then dropped, or filed and then the DA's refuse to prosecute when they see the lack of evidence, or the complaining witness changes her mind and decides not to pursue the case. Since a huge number of these cases go away prior to... anything really happening other than a guy getting arrested (likely fired from his job, etc etc) they say think of the mans reputation.

Any other questions?
 
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Mist_sl said:
You didn't answer my points at all. How is it different from the example I gave?
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In your example, I'm not actually giving consent to the guy to come to my house and take my things. Proper example actually would not only needs me to agree to what he's doing, but also requires me to help him out to take my stuff out of my house and into his truck.
 
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Arbitrary_sl said:
Your points are that men are sexual aggressors that prey on drunk women and that if a woman drinks and has sex than she was raped. Those aren't points.

See also - Cad and his 20 dollar bill example
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Access to a woman's body is clearly worth about 20 bucks. A BJ from a toothless mulatto tranny costs more than that.
 
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Mist_sl said:
FALSE FUCKING EQUIVALENCE? Are you saying that a woman's body is not something of value that can be violated?
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Your argument by strawman technique is persuasive, but I'm going to have to go with "fuck you, I never said that you dumb cunt. Kill yourself."
 
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Mist_sl said:
You didn't answer my points at all.
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Alright, fine. Let me address your points.

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I hope the next time you're drunk, someone takes your keys, breaks into your house and kills your fucking dog. You're damn fucking right I hate, I hate people like you because you fucking deserve every last drop of it.
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This is my dog.

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Anyone who would state that they want someone to break into my home and shoot her (it's a female dog, why do you hate your gender so much) is dangerously irrational. Perhaps I am right to treat you as you wish women to be treated - as children that are not responsible for their actions.

So you win. From here on in I'll always regard you as a 12 year old that cannot ever be blamed for anything she says or does. When you say such things I'll blame your husband and if that isn't applicable I'll blame your father. All legal responsibility for your behavior falls on the most senior male in your family.
 
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