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Right!

Women lack the socio-economic equality necessary to adequately give consent so

ALL HETEROSEXUAL SEX IS RAPE

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Big Phoenix

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Woman becomes voluntarily intoxicated and then voluntarily has sex, but claims rape because she regrets it later. Woman is deemed faultless for her actions as she was not in a position to consent.

Woman becomes voluntarily intoxicated and then voluntarily gets behind the wheel of a car and then hits and kills a pedestrian. Woman is held accountable for her actions and then convicted.


Conclusion: Women shouldn't drive.
dont go pointing out the massive logical inconsistencies in the legal system.
 

Voyce

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If you look at a chick, and she doesn't consent to being looked at, did you rape her?
 

Voyce

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If you think about a girl and she didn't consent you to think about her, did you rape her?
 

Voyce

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if you're fighting a Vagina monster off with your dick, and you stab the Vagina monster, that's rape right?
 

Arbitrary

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Who the fuck let you buy that you cis white male scum? Stick to you rape mags and rape sites (while you can). The very idea of a MAN masturbating to our literature offends me to my core. I hope the book snaps shut and cuts off your rape penis before you can rape anyone with rape.

You rapist.
 

Tanoomba

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One of those is illegal and the other isn't. Taking advantage of drunk girls is practically an NCAA sport. Calling rape falsely is an actual crime.

Yes these things are equivalent. GOOD JOB YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Alright, let's talk legal then. Believe it or not, consent can't legally be given when drunk. Fuck a drunk person, and it's entirely up to them to decide whether or not they've been raped. Yes, it's up to them to decide whether or not you've committed a crime and they've got the law on their side. You can't defend yourself in court by saying "But she said yes when she was drunk! According tome, that's not rape!" and walk out of the courtroom. You may not like it but yes, the examples I gave are pretty equivalent in that theybothfall into "grey zones".

I repeat:
Girls, if you don't wanna get raped, don't drink around guys.
Guys, if you don't wanna be accused of rape, don't fuck drunk girls.

Now, as Gavinrad pointed out:
I called up a friend of mine and apologized for raping her when we had a couple drinks and hooked up several years ago. She was surprisingly understanding considering the horrible trauma I must have put her through.
The vast majority of alcohol-fueled sexual encounters are pleasant for both parties involved, because in most cases both sides act like responsible adults who know what they're doing. If, like the majority of human beings, you've found ways to sleep with people that involve alcohol and DON'T end in rape charges (questionable or otherwise), congratulations! You're a regular fucking human being. If you can't handle this kind of responsibility or are terrified of what MIGHT happen, I refer you to the above rules that keep EVERYBODY happy.
 

Cad

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Alright, let's talk legal then. Believe it or not, consent can't legally be given when drunk. Fuck a drunk person, and it's entirely up to them to decide whether or not they've been raped. Yes, it's up to them to decide whether or not you've committed a crime and they've got the law on their side. You can't defend yourself in court by saying "But she said yes when she was drunk! According tome, that's not rape!" and walk out of the courtroom. You may not like it but yes, the examples I gave are pretty equivalent in that theybothfall into "grey zones".
Actually they don't and you're fucking stupid. If the girl admits that she consented (albeit drunk), then thats NOT FUCKING RAPE. IN ANY COURT. The only time consent wouldn't be valid (or lack of objection, more to the point) would be when they are so drunk that they are practically unconscious.

I'll grant you that chicks scream rape at anything and everything, but if you can find me some case law saying "drunk = no consent" then I'm with you. Until then, shut the fuck up you fucking imbecilic twat.
 

Voyce

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Alright, this was fun but it's summer and summer is not for sitting inside and being pointless. Have fun kids.
 

Koushirou

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If someone who's drunk tells you they're fine and is about to go get in their car, do you take their keys and call them a cab or do you let them go on their merry way? They're an adult after all, and they said they're fine. They're not of the right mind to make that call though, just like someone who's drunk isn't in the right mind to give consent for sexy time. Invalid or no consent? Probably rape. As for how drunk one would have to be for that to apply, I have no idea. How someone's supposed to tell if another person's too drunk to consent, I have no idea there either. Some chick getting slightly buzzed and deciding to let the whole football team run a train on her and regretting it the next day? Yeah, probably not rape. Obviously, it's not that cut and dry, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that someone can be intoxicated enough while still being conscious to not be able to give proper consent. At the same time, I wouldn't say it's really someone's fault if a drunk person initiates with them. Again, how does one tell for sure whether someone's able to consent or not. Maybe someone can make a breathalyzer app for that!
 

Jais

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So...I should start breathalyzing womenfolk before we touch parts? Like what BAC we talking, drunk driving limit? I should work up some sort of boilerplate waver/contract and keep a notary on standby.