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Khane
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Mist
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Men don't notice how much they objectify women because men objectifyeverything. The propensity for men to objectify things is just side effect of their neurobiology. It's not even up for debate, especially here of all places; this is a forum where there's 2 entire threads devoted to pictures of women's butts and buttholes, largely sans faces.
Soygen
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khorum
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As opposed to the three threads devoted largely to how you fail at managing life, your mother, and soulless tech jobs? Also largely sans pics of faces in those threads (or buttholes, or flat-as-boards titties).
Cad
scientia potentia est
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Soygen
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Mist
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I'm not ascribing values to any of those behaviors, just clarifying the point about objectification versus judgment.
Women judge other women way more and way, way more harshly than men ever will. But objectification, that whole depersonalization, devaluation (more accurately, reducing something to object values) is something that men do, and they do it with generally everything, and women generally do not.
For instance, women will be like "I wish I had her boobs" or "She has no hips, gross" where men will be like "I want to motorboat those boobs" or "I want to wreck that asshole."
Cad
scientia potentia est
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Whats the difference?
I guarantee you if there were some disembodied tits or buttholes floating around you'd see that is not what interests us, glory hole fantasies aside. I think you're arguing semantics there.
fanaskin
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That's actual reality, judgement exists only as a concept in your brains, objects exist in reality. The word reducing is wrongly used here, there is no reduction, it's an addition to reality in your own mind.
Denaut
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Sounds to me like you don't know what objectify means. It means you treat a person as an object... not apictureof a person (object), or avideoof a person (object), or acharacterin a story (object), or adigital puppetthat looks like a person (also an object). You can't objectify something that is already an object.
Looking at people is not objectifying them, even if you look at them sexually. Your thoughts are not a crime, and your feelings are not objectification of another person. You are only capable of objectifying something when your actions, interactions, and treatment of another mind disregards that they have an independent mind.
Mist
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Firstly, you're conflating objectification with dehumanization. Objectification is an intermediate step towards dehumanization.
Secondly, you're still constantly conditioning your brain to think that way by doing those things, and then add in the fact that male brains are more likely to be structured to think that way in the first place, mix in some neuroplasticity and you've got a recipe for a lot of the behaviors we see.