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Lithose

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Article references a study that says only 2-10% of reports are false. Study, once again, illustrates that the only 'false" reports they count are the ones where there is no physical evidence of sex happening, and alibis which make interactions impossible (So flat out lies that the two people were even together.) Otherwise, even if there is evidence of a woman saying she wants sex, or lies in her statements about the events of the evening? (Both examples used) It is classified as "unsubstantiated", not "false".

So essentially you could have a text stating "coming over for sex", a video of the girl saying "I'm about to have sex, can't wait"...and after video saying "That sex was great". But if there was actual sex, and she accused the guy of rape? It was unsubstantiated, not a false allegation. That is the bar. (And even with that level, in some studies 10% of cases were false--holy shit. So 1 in 10 women actually had the balls to straight up accuse someone of rape that never even had sex with them.)

The irony here is you constantly hear "only 6% of rapists are convicted"--because Feminists claim every unsubstantiated case is a rape. And that language is seen as perfectly acceptable. What would happen if people said "only 10% of false accusations are ever punished". That kind of language would cause riots. The sad fact is, the vast majority of cases "in the middle" can be false OR rapes that went unpunished. Wedo notknow. Saying that "only 2-10% of rapes are false" is as absurd as saying that "only 6% of accusations are actually rapes, the rest are lies and false reports".
 

Tanoomba

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Article references a study that says only 2-10% of reports are false. Study, once again, illustrates that the only 'false" reports they count are the ones where there is no physical evidence of sex happening, and alibis which make interactions impossible (So flat out lies that the two people were even together.) Otherwise, even if there is evidence of a woman saying she wants sex, or lies in her statements about the events of the evening? (Both examples used) It is classified as "unsubstantiated", not "false".
Ummm... Yeah. The only cases of false accusations that count are the cases where false accusations can be PROVEN.
 

fanaskin

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Ummm... Yeah. The only cases of false accusations that count are the cases where false accusations can be PROVEN.
So the only cases where rape counts is where rape can be proven? Or should we just listen and believe everyone who claims to be a victim?
 

Tanoomba

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So the only cases where rape counts is where rape can be proven? or should we just listen and believe everyone who claims to be a victim?
OF COURSE rape has to be proven before it can be counted in rape statistics.
 

fanaskin

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Then why do they use surveys in many of the rape statistics thrown around?
 

Lithose

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OF COURSE rape has to be proven before it can be counted in rape statistics.
And that's the issue, the issue is with language surrounding rape. For example,only 97 of every 100 rapists receive no punishment.

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And this is Rain; they are the same ones that criticized the SJW phenomenon of "regret rape". They are, by every metric, a moderate institution. But you can see how pervasive the rhetoric is. Every accusation isautomaticallycounted as a "rape that didn't get prosecuted". (They literally just assume the men who walk free are rapists, they flat out say it, regardless of them not knowing the context.)

In any case, you do realize Tan your statement just admitted there is no rape epidemic on campus, because the actual amount of rapes on campus which are proven is exceedingly low. The only reason there are high figures at all is because surveys count ANY incidence where a woman thinks she was coerced, by ANY means--is rape. Without any proof what so ever it was.

This is the issue with the language. The above language could EASILY be written to say "97 out of every 100 rape accusations are made by women attempting to lie and smear a man's name". Because 97 out of 100 rapes were never proven, and lets be honest, calling someone a liar is not nearly as bad as assuming someone is a rapist right? (Edit: And pointing this out to show how outrageous it would be to actually say it. Of course the stigma of being assumed a liar if you can't prove your case would be terrible. Which is why its perplexing Campuses allow for people to be labelled as a rapist without evidence.)
 

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After the outrage reached a critical mass, UT Chancellor Jimmy Cheek apologized and updated the guidance. It now merely encourages people to keep their minds open, celebrate diversity, and ensure that any and all holiday merrymaking is conducted on a voluntary basis.
Well at least they don't endorse involuntary merrymaking.
 

Lithose

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What is the context? Your link doesn't go to the study itself.


1.) Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2008-2012

2.) FBI, Uniform Crime Reports, Arrest Data: 2006-2010

3.) FBI, Uniform Crime Reports, Offenses Cleared Data: 2006-2010

4.) Department of Justice, Felony Defendents in Large Urban Counties: 2009

5.) Department of Justice, Felony Defendents in Large Urban Counties: 2009


Data uses a survey for total rapes, compares them to arrests, and just uses the FBI conviction rate. However, every case the survey gets a response from is considered a rapist, regardless of context, or evidence.
 

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And that's the issue, the issue is with language surrounding rape. For example,only 97 of every 100 rapists receive no punishment.

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And this is Rain; they are the same ones that criticized the SJW phenomenon of "regret rape". They are, by every metric, a moderate institution. But you can see how pervasive the rhetoric is. Every accusation isautomaticallycounted as a "rape that didn't get prosecuted". (They literally just assume the men who walk free are rapists, they flat out say it, regardless of them not knowing the context.)

In any case, you do realize Tan your statement just admitted there is no rape epidemic on campus, because the actual amount of rapes on campus which are proven is exceedingly low. The only reason there are high figures at all is because surveys count ANY incidence where a woman thinks she was coerced, by ANY means--is rape. Without any proof what so ever it was.

This is the issue with the language. The above language could EASILY be written to say "97 out of every 100 rape accusations are made by women attempting to lie and smear a man's name". Because 97 out of 100 rapes were never proven, and lets be honest, calling someone a liar is not nearly as bad as assuming someone is a rapist right? (Edit: And pointing this out to show how outrageous it would be to actually say it. Of course the stigma of being assumed a liar if you can't prove your case would be terrible. Which is why its perplexing Campuses allow for people to be labelled as a rapist without evidence.)
Only three out of every 100 rapists will ever spend even a single day in prison, according to a new analysis by RAINN of Justice Department data. The other 97 will walk free, facing no consequences for the violent felony they have committed. Because rapists tend to be serial criminals, this leaves communities across the nation at risk of predators.
I also love how that paragraph totally contradicts itself.

Because rapists tend to be serial criminals, this leaves communities across the nation at risk of predators.
this is the key.
Rapists are serial criminals, so "out of every 100 rapes" there are only like 50 victims(made up number, I dont have a source on serial victim, atm, although that also occurs), and 25 rapists in the first place. not 100 of each, which that chart very clearly asserts. "out of every 100 rape accusations, there are 100 rapists" it says that. which is totally false by its own statistics.

http://www.davidlisak.com/wp-content...tedRapists.pdf

Of the 1,882 men in the total sample, 120 (6.4%) met criteria for rape or attempted rape...
..Of the 120 rapists, 76 (63.3%) reported committing repeat rapes, either against multiple
victims, or more than once against the same victim. In total, the 120 rapists admitted to 483
rapes, or 4.0 rapes each. However, this average is somewhat misleading.Since 44 of the 120
rapists admitted to only a single rape, the 76 repeat rapists actually accounted for 439 of the
rapes, averaging 5.8 each (SD =7.7
), significantly more than the single-act rapists (t =-4.1
(118), p < .001). The median number ofrapes for the repeat rapists was three. Figure 1 shows
the frequency of rapists who committed single and multiple numbers of rapes.
483 rapes-120 unique people, 4:1
76 people committed 91% of the rapes.
76 is 63% of 120, so 63% of the rapists, committed 91% of the rapes.

Using these numbers for the "100 rapes"
100 rapes, with 25 unique rapists
with, 16 rapists committing 91 of the rapes.

so, is it 3 out of 100, or 3 out of 16? or 3 out of 25?
Those "97 rapists" do not exist.
 

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I wana start making paraodies. You know instead of nonsense bullshit have it be dear black people, please tell other black people xyz isnt okay. Dear brown people, tell other brown people xyz isnt okay. All you literally have to do is replace a few words and bam, same message just different target.
 

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