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God really has to hate you to make youthatfat and not even give you big titties.
 

Quaid

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That's what you get from that?!
Yeah man. Why can't women just accuse men of a witnessless crime without having to go through all that icky court stuff, where they will potentially be made to feel uncomfortable?

I feel so bad for her. smh.
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Eomer

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Are the defense lawyers seriously not supposed to cross-examine complainants with contrary facts?
That isn't what I said at all. The defense counsel is doing what she should be doing. I was merely making the observation that there's a very good reason that women are often afraid of coming forward with complaints, because the process can be fucking awful. I don't see why that's a controversial statement.
 

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That isn't what I said at all. The defense counsel is doing what she should be doing. I was merely making the observation that there's a very good reason that women are often afraid of coming forward with complaints, because the process can be fucking awful. I don't see why that's a controversial statement.
Yeah, it can be awful in court when you've given contradictory statements and have to explain yourself.

Good?
 

Eomer

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The human memory is really poor at recalling exact details, and over time is really adept at changing the details of said memories. It's hardly surprising that someone's recollection of events 10+ years after the fact has inconsistencies. That doesn't automatically mean she's some vengeful bitch out to get an otherwise nice, upstanding citizen who never harmed anyone else.
 

Cad

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The human memory is really poor at recalling exact details, and over time is really adept at changing the details of said memories. It's hardly surprising that someone's recollection of events 10+ years after the fact has inconsistencies. That doesn't automatically mean she's some vengeful bitch out to get an otherwise nice, upstanding citizen who never harmed anyone else.
You mean like the story where she said just hearing his name on the radio re-victimized her and she tried to block him out but couldn't, meanwhile she sent him flirty emails a year later?

Those kinds of exact details?
 

Eomer

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hah, yeah, that one definitely hurts her credibility. No question there. However being an American, you might not have caught wind of all the shit swirling around Ghomeshi:Jian Ghomeshi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Makes for some interesting reading, in any case. I have no doubt that some of the women who have come forward are exaggerating things or are women scorned more than victims. However, the sheer number of women who have come forward, and the guy's own admissions and past history leave me with basically zero sympathy for him. He's a fucking creep, and it was well known in the Toronto music/entertainment community that he was a "bad date" long before he was charged with anything.
 

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hah, yeah, that one definitely hurts her credibility. No question there.
Or this:

For instance, the woman was insistent that the first assault occurred in Ghomeshi's bright yellow Volkswagen Beetle.

She made it a centrepiece of her account to prosecutor Michael Callaghan: She found the car endearing, sort of comforting.

She was already impressed by Ghomeshi, she said, whom she pronounced funny, bright and charming, and then they walked to his car and it wasn't a Hummer or some show-off vehicle, but this "Disney car . It reminds me of a 1960s Disney movie . he drives a Disney car. I'm feeling very safe."

But when Henein said her client didn't own a VW Beetle at that time (rather a GTI, which bears no resemblance) and in fact "didn't buy a 'love bug' until months and months later" and asked the woman if that didn't mean her memory was wrong, she replied, "If he didn't own it then, I was mistaken. I'm not a connoisseur of cars."
So when you make something an important part of your testimony, then it is revealed that that part was totally made up after the fact, you shouldn't wonder what else is made up after the fact?

These are what you put up as "this is why it is hard for women" ??

How about, don't lie your fucking ass off and you won't get called on it. NOT LYING always makes it easier.
 

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Every statement this woman has given, every interview, has been within the last 24 months. We aren't talking about a story changing over the course of a decade here, and the impacts that has on how you remember events.
 

Eomer

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Every statement this woman has given, every interview, has been within the last 24 months. We aren't talking about a story changing over the course of a decade here, and the impacts that has on how you remember events.
Ah, I haven't been following it closely recently. I thought some of her comments/statements were from a decade ago, or longer.