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Trump's Staff
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Who cares about progress?
Also what free societies are this you speak of? London on the 1800 was a free society and if you were poor you will die poor. Do you know any history at all?
 

TrollfaceDeux

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Capitalism and technological improvement over the scale of centuries is one of primary reasons why this free society came to be... Just imagine a world without a pot, oven, laundry machine, and essentially every household item that women uses in their day to day activities to make their lives easiler. Without these progress, women will still be in the kitchen and their participantion in the workforce infinitely doubtful. Why was for instance 1960 the era of change? Because babyboomers who grew up easy with all the tools they need no longer helped their mothers to do housework and instead went to school. Motherbood/womenhood was redefined by the progress of our civilization.

Islamic world is an interesting experience but even in the Islamic world women's place in the society is steadily changing because of the irrelevance that is sharia law. In the end though, a society that adopts to quickly changing technology is the society that will win out.
 

Mist

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Capitalism and technological improvement over the scale of centuries is one of primary reasons why this free society came to be... Just imagine a world without a pot, oven, laundry machine, and essentially every household item that women uses in their day to day activities to make their lives easiler. Without these progress, women will still be in the kitchen and their participantion in the workforce infinitely doubtful. Why was for instance 1960 the era of change? Because babyboomers who grew up easy with all the tools they need no longer helped their mothers to do housework and instead went to school. Motherbood/womenhood was redefined by the progress of our civilization.

Islamic world is an interesting experience but even in the Islamic world women's place in the society is steadily changing because of the irrelevance that is sharia law. In the end though, a society that adopts to quickly changing technology is the society that will win out.
Right, but if women hadn't laid the groundwork by fighting for the right to vote and other social advances 40 years prior to the technological advances that liberated them economically, they would have been kept shacked to the kitchen long past when it was economically feasible for them to not be. That's exactly what's happening in Islamic cultures. The money and the technology exists, but without the social framework necessary for social equality, their entire cultures remain relegated to the proverbial gutter.
 

Eomer

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There is no element of truth to saying White man ruled the world for the last couple of millennia.

While male only ruled europe because there were no other races in Europe for several millennia, so male ruled Europe.

White male never ruled , Africa, middle east, Near Asia, Far Asia, South Asia, Caribbean, South America, North America, in any period prior to 1600, that is only 500 years ago.
You're taking a throwaway, half-assed joking comment WAY THE FUCK too seriously man.
 

Agraza

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White male totes ruled middle east. Can't forget about them crusades bro. We were being huge douchebags, by not letting the muslims conquer and shit on every bit of christianity in the area.

Then you've got Alexander's conquest and the rule of his generals in the middle east, and the roman domination of the entire mediterranean, which includes a big chunk of the "middle east". Africa, Asia, and Orient are words based in greek and roman perspective, and the "entirety" of asia used to refer to just the east coast of the aegean sea, so you could say white man ruled every part of asia for a while.

Africa may have also just meant the southern mediterranean coastline, but I don't know about that. I do know it's named after a roman general though, so I think they get credit for owning all of it because the blackest continent in the world is named after a white dude.
 

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Trump's Staff
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i laughed agraza. yes i did. But I'm with you; I named my dog like an ex girlfriend, so yes I completely own that bitch.
 

Xevy

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I just thought I'd jump right in on page 58 without reading any previous posts. I'm assuming we're just going to stereotype all white males as having it easy as fuck and no possible obstacles in their life, right? Cuz skin and penis.
 

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Right, but if women hadn't laid the groundwork by fighting for the right to vote and other social advances 40 years prior to the technological advances that liberated them economically, they would have been kept shacked to the kitchen long past when it was economically feasible for them to not be. That's exactly what's happening in Islamic cultures. The money and the technology exists, but without the social framework necessary for social equality, their entire cultures remain relegated to the proverbial gutter.
I wonder who laid the groundwork which allowed women to lay said groundwork...
 

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Right, but if women hadn't laid the groundwork by fighting for the right to vote and other social advances 40 years prior to the technological advances that liberated them economically, they would have been kept shacked to the kitchen long past when it was economically feasible for them to not be. That's exactly what's happening in Islamic cultures. The money and the technology exists, but without the social framework necessary for social equality, their entire cultures remain relegated to the proverbial gutter.
That is not what you argued and you know it.
 

Eomer

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I just thought I'd jump right in on page 58 without reading any previous posts. I'm assuming we're just going to stereotype all white males as having it easy as fuck and no possible obstacles in their life, right? Cuz skin and penis.
That's not the context at all. If anything we're making fun of the PUAHate idiots, who seem to feel like the whole world is against them, when the reality is that they're mostly members of one of the subsets of society that probably has it the easiest of anyone,in general terms. Of course not every white male has life easy. But you know what? On average, they have it easier than most. That's not white male guilt. That's just reality.
 

Cad

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That's not the context at all. If anything we're making fun of the PUAHate idiots, who seem to feel like the whole world is against them, when the reality is that they're mostly members of one of the subsets of society that probably has it the easiest of anyone,in general terms. Of course not every white male has life easy. But you know what? On average, they have it easier than most. That's not white male guilt. That's just reality.
They want us to feel guilty about it though. If being white and male is an advantage (and it is), then good for me, sucks to be you. I don't feel guilty about getting pocket aces at the Hold'em table either. I only get one life, if I get advantages in it, woo hoo!
 

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That Louis CK bit is absurd, I know it was linked as a half joke, but man I get so tired of it. If Louis CK went back 500 years or more; he'd die, or be what would be considered a slave today. He wouldn't be considered "white"--he'd be considered Irish, which meant he'd be lucky to be spit on and allowed to work as slave labor so he can eat some potatoes. If he was unlucky he'd be starved to death, conscripted and butchered or killed in a rebellion.

So... it was fucking awesome to be the king or nobility then. We're agreed.
I would take middle class today; over the most powerful medieval King. No contest. The past is romanticized way too much; but it essentially sucked, for everyone, even the kings. It just sucked a lot more for the peasants. I'd probably even take somewhat poor, in a Western country, over medieval king. Only trade I'd make today is if I was an impoverished third worlder.
 

iannis

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These days the middle class has machines to do what barons to kings had servants and slaves for. The overhead on machines is way less.

True, we don't have men willing to go plunder the next town over that will take our orders. But we also don't have to feed those men and keep them from deciding to plunder each other or us.

And I'm pretty sure that with a hunting rifle I could kill more than my weight in dudes with swords anyway.
 

Tanoomba

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Here is the inconsistency with your argument.
On one hand you claim that consent can not be given when drunk. And on the other hand you said and i quote again
"Again (again, again), most people can drink and fuck and have no problems."

Those two positions can no coexist because drinking and getting drunk are synonymous for the law. It is either no alcohol on your blood, or there is some alcohol, and you are drunk.
So if we go by the establish law, that drinking = drunk, because the last thing a judge wants is to determine "how drunk someone was", because that is HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE; then your statement of "most people can drink and can fuck" becomes "no female can drink and give consent to fuck", they still fuck, but without legal consent. And that is where your argument falls apart, by your own statements, not mine.
Do you understand that?
Wow, you're slow. Yes, you can't give consent while drunk. Yes, it happens ALL THE TIME anyway, because people are generally mature and responsible adults who are capable of drinking with the intention to fuck if they want to. What you don't get, what most people refuse to even acknowledge, is that "people can drink and fuck" doesn't mean" it's OK to take advantage of a drunk person to fuck them".

Some of you act like this is a trap. "How the fuck am I supposed to know she isn't going tofeellike she was violated the nest day and accuse me of rape when she was all over my cock the night before?" ...Right? This is the big danger every guy here is worried about?

Again, this doesn't happen with enough regularity for it to be even statistically significant.
And again (again, again, again), if you can't tell the difference between a situation where alcohol is being used socially to lower inhibitions and possibly lead to some (mutually desired) action and a situation where alcohol is being used to take advantage of someone and get them to do what they wouldn't do while sober, DON'T FUCK DRUNK PEOPLE. If you can't tell the difference, you can't handle the responsibility and you deserve whatever rape accusations you get.
Realistically, the grand majority of us DO understand the difference. It's why, in all likelihood, none of us has been accused of rape ever even though alcohol may have played a role in many social and romantic interactions (Trollface excluded). So even though, like me, you guys are capable of fucking drunk people, unlike me you pretend that "consent can't be given when drunk" is a trap or a slippery slope specifically designed to ensnare innocent males and ruin their lives as part of some feminazi agenda. Protip:It's not. Stop being paranoid defensive cunts and be a little logical once in a while.
 

chaos

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I would take middle class today; over the most powerful medieval King. No contest. The past is romanticized way too much; but it essentially sucked, for everyone, even the kings. It just sucked a lot more for the peasants. I'd probably even take somewhat poor, in a Western country, over medieval king. Only trade I'd make today is if I was an impoverished third worlder.
For sure. At the time it was awesome. Now? Yeah cholera and dysentary probably suck, I'll never know though. I will take my pampered, cushy existence.