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Cad · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
Similar enough in legal terms for the purposes of this discussion (just ask our lawyer friend).

No its not

fanaskin · May 31, 2014

tanoomba is morepedanticthan most of you realize

Tanoomba · May 31, 2014

chaos_sl said:
So Tanoomba seems to be saying that if you rape a girl while drunk, it's rape.

You could put it that way, sure. And several others seem to be saying that if you rape a girl while drunk, it isn't rape. You know, because she was drunk, which was her choice.

Alkorin · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
Similar enough in legal terms for the purposes of this discussion (just ask our lawyer friend).

This is the fallacy that never ends,
it just goes on and on my friends...

Arbitrary · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
Similar enough in legal terms for the purposes of this discussion (just ask our lawyer friend).

Cad_sl said:
No its not

I asked our lawyer friend. He said you were wrong.

Cad · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
You could put it that way, sure. And several others seem to be saying that if you rape a girl while drunk, it isn't rape. You know, because she was drunk, which was her choice.

Whats your definition of rape?

Lendarios · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
"Yes, Tanoomba, technically you have a point, but what we'd really like to get at here is X...".

No where in this thread you had something remotely called a point. If you act
Tally had a point about something I would acknowledge it. But you didn't it. You have no legal nor common sense point at all in all this discussions.

Jais · May 31, 2014

Cad_sl said:
Whats your definition of rape?

This should be good.

Tanoomba · May 31, 2014

Cad_sl said:
Taking advantage of people isn't illegal

It is when you fuck them without consent.

Cad_sl said:
Taking advantage of a woman's drunkenness isn't rape, absent force or her being unconscious/incapacitated.

Alcohol is a drug, by any definition of the term. Exploiting someone's drug-induced compromised state, a state where their ability to give consent is severely compromised,even if the drug was consumed willingly, is rape.

Tanoomba · May 31, 2014

Cad_sl said:
Whats your definition of rape?

Same as everyone else's: Sex without consent.

Cad · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
Exploiting someone's drug-induced compromised state, a state where their ability to give consent is severely compromised,even if the drug was consumed willingly, is rape.

Since rape is a crime, saying what is and isn't rape is a legal question. Can you provide citations to case law in a state in the US where this would be true?

Araysar · May 31, 2014

Mist_sl said:
Just don't have sex with chicks you don't trust to not turn around and be crazy the next day. Problem solved.

So basically all women. Well, I gotta tell you. That's gonna be hard.

Araysar · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
This is far, far too retarded to respond to. Shame on you./

How is that retarded?

How is you tricking me into manual labor is not a violation and exploitation of my body but me having consensual sex with a drunk woman is?

Tanoomba_sl said:
Similar enough in legal terms for the purposes of this discussion (just ask our lawyer friend).

Not even close. Citation needed that sex is a contract.

Tanoomba_sl said:
Never said it did.

Just implied it over and over and over and over

Tanoomba_sl said:
Never said that either.

Keep on strawmanning.

Just implied it over and over and over and over

Araysar · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
Same as everyone else's: Sex without consent.

So a woman having a few drinks and saying "yes" to sex is not rape. Thanks for finally ending this charade.

P.S. I haven't been able to find a single definition of rape where the word "consent" is used

Tanoomba · May 31, 2014

Arbitrary_sl said:
I asked our lawyer friend. He said you were wrong.

our lawyer friend_sl said:
contracts are intended to reflect the mutual assent and intents of both parties (and represent continuing obligations)

Explain to me what part of that doesn't apply to sex. Keep in mind "continuing obligations" can include unintended consequences of having sex.

iannis · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
You could put it that way, sure. And several others seem to be saying that if you rape a girl while drunk, it isn't rape. You know, because she was drunk, which was her choice.

lol. you're the only one that has ever been arguing the point that raping a drunk chick is still rape. That was NEVER a misunderstanding. You are also the one that has been arguing that having sex with a drunk chick is by default rape unless proven otherwise because of feelings and legal and reasons. That has also not been a misunderstanding.

I'm not makin this shit up.

I feel like maybe this entire argument could be easily simplified into a Venn Diagram. Except the parts with "tanoomba" on them would be the insane parts, and there would be no overlap with the simple sane parts. You've been studiously avoiding the sane parts.

Tanoomba · May 31, 2014

Araysar_sl said:
So a woman having a few drinks and saying "yes" to sex is not rape. Thanks for finally ending this charade.

P.S. I haven't been able to find a single definition of rape where the word "consent" is used

Wikipedia_sl said:
Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms sexual penetration initiated against one or more individuals without theconsentof those individuals.

Literally the first result if you Google "rape".

Arbitrary · May 31, 2014

Tanoomba_sl said:
Explain to me what part of that doesn't apply to sex. Keep in mind "continuing obligations" can include unintended consequences of having sex.

So glad you asked.

1. Sex isnt a contract
2. Intoxication doesnt absolve you from responsibility
3. Most courts wont void a contract based on intoxication
4. Being drunk doesnt automatically mean that everything you do means you're being taken advantage of.

Alex · May 31, 2014

Nothing has changed in at least 30 pages. It's the same repeated shit. How is this still going on?

Tanoomba · May 31, 2014

Arbitrary_sl said:
So glad you asked.

1. Sex isnt a contract
2. Intoxication doesnt absolve you from responsibility
3. Most courts wont void a contract based on intoxication
4. Being drunk doesnt automatically mean that everything you do means you're being taken advantage of.

Besides the fact that that doesn't answer my question, I already addressed all 4 of those points. Keep up, man.

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