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mkopec

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Its not irrelevant.

The whole premise behind feminism is how we take advantage of women, right? how they were somehow victims all throughout history. Its a false premise and that's just one example of why that's not true.

Most of this narrative stems from 'feminists' comparing the plight of average women to the topmost men (the monarch and other aristocrats), rather than to the average man. This practice is known as apex fallacy, and whether accidental or deliberate, entirely misrepresents reality. To approximate the conditions of the average woman to the average man (the key word being 'average') in the Western world of a century ago, simply observe the lives of the poorest peasants in poor countries today. Both men and women have to perform tedious work, have insufficient food and clothing, and limited opportunities for up-liftment.

Not to mention a century ago the average man was forced to risk death on the battlefield, at sea, or in mines, while most women stayed indoors tending to children and household duties. Male life expectancy was always significantly lower than that of females, and still is.
 
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mkopec_sl said:
Yeah WE, just like YOU women all claim to be victims of rape culture.
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As much as I hate the concept of rape culture, you're actually making the caseforrape culture, by the way. If you, personally, are going to take all the credit for all the good things men did, then you, personally have to take all the credit for all the bad things men did.

You're just as responsible for inventing the clothes dryer as you are for Elliot Rodger.
 
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mkopec_sl said:
Its not irrelevant.

The whole premise behind feminism is how we take advantage of women, right? how they were somehow victims all throughout history. Its a false premise and that's just one example of why that's not true.

Most of this narrative stems from 'feminists' comparing the plight of average women to the topmost men (the monarch and other aristocrats), rather than to the average man. This practice is known as apex fallacy, and whether accidental or deliberate, entirely misrepresents reality. To approximate the conditions of the average woman to the average man (the key word being 'average') in the Western world of a century ago, simply observe the lives of the poorest peasants in poor countries today. Both men and women have to perform tedious work, have insufficient food and clothing, and limited opportunities for up-liftment.

Not to mention a century ago the average man was forced to risk death on the battlefield, at sea, or in mines, while most women stayed indoors tending to children and household duties. Male life expectancy was always significantly lower than that of females, and still is.
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So to make up for taking advantage of women, you invented the loom and the microwave. Seems like a fair trade.

Its kinda like giving your black slave a brand new cotton gin or something.
 
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Famm_sl said:
See, that doesn't really happen very often to straight guys. Drunken hookups either end as one night stands or develop into dating. Sometimes you may get one who cries because she realizes its a one night stand for you but she would prefer something more.

In your case they are probably hetero girls who realize after the post coital haze clears that they let them get drunk and out-of-control enough to experiment with some dyke. Suddenly they are in bed with a very real lesbian and its a crisis. And of course privileged white girls' de facto response skill for a crisis is to turn on the waterworks.
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No I meant just crying in general. Like the girls who drink at parties and then start getting sad and crying about random shit like how stressful their spoiled life is.

I just can't stand drunk chicks in general. Or drunk anyone. I hate drunk people.

I'm not talking about hookups.
 
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No, it's not like that at all. You're literally taking credit for something someone else did, and then thinking other people owe YOU for that.

Also I already discussed rape culture and what a dumb concept it is.
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He's not talking about you and him specifically, he's referring to men and women in general. The idea being that men created this world in which independant and liberated women were able to exist and thrive, yet some supposed male culture is responsible for female oppression.

YOU may work hard and be willing to theoretically perform blue collar labor, but you know damn well there's precious few female trash collectors. The modern world where a woman can literally be anything she can dream of is built on the backs of the date rapey redneck trailer park republicans you despise, and that's a fact.

Disclaimer, I'm a moderate leftist privileged white devil. So don't use this post to assume I'm a tea partier or something.
 
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No I meant just crying in general. Like the girls who drink at parties and then start getting sad and crying about random shit like how stressful their spoiled life is.

I just can't stand drunk chicks in general. Or drunk anyone. I hate drunk people.

I'm not talking about hookups.
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Yeah, well, your run of the mill college chick is pretty emotional and airheaded. No one's denying that.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
So to make up for taking advantage of women, you invented the loom and the microwave. Seems like a fair trade.

Its kinda like giving your black slave a brand new cotton gin or something.
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And just how did we take advantage of women?
 
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Yeah, well, your run of the mill college chick is pretty emotional and airheaded. No one's denying that.
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I think there's a Doug Stanhope routine about how he doesn't understand how older men can put up with 20-something girls long enough to fuck them.
 
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Famm_sl said:
He's not talking about you and him specifically, he's referring to men and women in general. The idea being that men created this world in which independant and liberated women were able to exist and thrive, yet some supposed male culture is responsible for female oppression.

YOU may work hard and be willing to theoretically perform blue collar labor, but you know damn well there's precious few female trash collectors. The modern world where a woman can literally be anything she can dream of is built on the backs of the date rapey redneck trailer park republicans you despise, and that's a fact.

Disclaimer, I'm a moderate leftist privileged white devil. So don't use this post to assume I'm a tea partier or something.
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I can't imagine beta males building houses, running electrical lines, captaining ship, driving trains, or cutting concrete.
 
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Famm_sl said:
He's not talking about you and him specifically, he's referring to men and women in general. The idea being that men created this world in which independant and liberated women were able to exist and thrive, yet some supposed male culture is responsible for female oppression.

YOU may work hard and be willing to theoretically perform blue collar labor, but you know damn well there's precious few female trash collectors. The modern world where a woman can literally be anything she can dream of is built on the backs of the date rapey redneck trailer park republicans you despise, and that's a fact.

Disclaimer, I'm a moderate leftist privileged white devil. So don't use this post to assume I'm a tea partier or something.
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Thank you for wording it like I intended it to sound like. Im not a good writer.
 
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Mist_sl said:
I think there's a Doug Stanhope routine about how he doesn't understand how older men can put up with 20-something girls long enough to fuck them.
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Who says they do put up with them? Most of the older guys I know that date young women send them off to spend money so they DONT have to put up with them. The only time they really want them around is when their status as arm-candy is required or they are providing vagina services. They are taught to keep quiet while performing these services too.

Otherwise yea I have no idea how they'd put with them. I don't remember how I put up with them at that age either.
 
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Famm_sl said:
He's not talking about you and him specifically, he's referring to men and women in general. The idea being that men created this world in which independant and liberated women were able to exist and thrive, yet some supposed male culture is responsible for female oppression.

YOU may work hard and be willing to theoretically perform blue collar labor, but you know damn well there's precious few female trash collectors. The modern world where a woman can literally be anything she can dream of is built on the backs of the date rapey redneck trailer park republicans you despise, and that's a fact.

Disclaimer, I'm a moderate leftist privileged white devil. So don't use this post to assume I'm a tea partier or something.
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Infinite regression. Many of those men that created those things that pushed society forward were themselves created by what were likely some pretty awesome moms. Taking credit for things that other people did in the past is stupid because it leads nowhere.

Turtles all the way down.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
I can't imagine beta males building houses, running electrical lines, captaining ship, driving trains, or cutting concrete.
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Our entire modern civilization is built on beta male labor. 20-60-20, bro.

To provide 'beta' men an incentive to produce far more economic output than needed just to support themselves while simultaneously controlling the hypergamy of women that would deprive children of interaction with their biological fathers, all major religions constructed an institution to force constructive conduct out of both genders while penalizing the natural primate tendencies of each. This institution was known as 'marriage'. Societies that enforced monogamous marriage made sure all beta men had wives, thus unlocking productive output out of these men who in pre-modern times would have had no incentive to be productive. Women, in turn, received a provider, a protector, and higher social status than unmarried women, who often were trapped in poverty. When applied over an entire population of humans, this system was known as 'civilization'.
 
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Who says they do put up with them? Most of the older guys I know that date young women send them off to spend money so they DONT have to put up with them. The only time they really want them around is when their status as arm-candy is required or they are providing vagina services. They are taught to keep quiet while performing these services too.

Otherwise yea I have no idea how they'd put with them. I don't remember how I put up with them at that age either.
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Was it not the great Charlie Sheen who said "... I do not pay women for sex. I pay them to leave after sex, no questions asked."
 
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I wish every post on this thread had a real-life picture of each person as their avatar. I bet this thread would be at least three to four times funnier that way.
 
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