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taebin

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Do you have to be a customer of said program in order to purchase? In your example, AMEX.
 

Eomer

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From what I experienced with buying my car, I'm not sure paying 2k isn't worth not dealing with all the shit. I test drove a 2014 model and negotiated the price down to something that I thought was too good to be true. Turns out it was and they tried to bait-and-switch me on the 2013 model when I came back to buy the car. They then re-quoted the 2014 model as $80/month higher than our agreement, I walked out after they refused to come down. The manager was actually fuming with rage (I'm sure it was an act, but he did a damn good job at it) when I left and actually yelled at me. I don't know how the average chick will deal with it when the store manager is actually screaming at her, but I bet not well. I then went over to another dealership that had also quoted me a low price, but of course that price turned out to be for some floor/demo version of the car that already had thousands of miles on it. I eventually got a good price by going to a third dealership and showing them the offer from the second without telling them it was a demo version.

I also picked up an actual stalker during the process. I went to a Toyota dealership and basically walked out when he started with the "we'll only have this car until the end of the day" and "red is a premium color that costs more" bullshit. He STILL calls me constantly, despite the fact that I've stopped answering the phone or responding to his voicemails. He has since left Toyota and now works for Ford and calls me constantly telling me how much better deals Ford has and how Toyota was taking advantage of their customers and how I need to come in.
heh, all that is fine and dandy, if she were buying a new car. She was buying a used car from a dealership conglomerate's surplus lot. So not only did she not try to get 5-10% off the list price of the car at least, but she also had to pay 5% sales tax that she wouldn't have if she found something else privately, and paid a $500 bullshit administration fee (they "throw in" that stupid police parts identification bullshit, which they used to force on people until a consumer watchdog banned that shit, so now it's just a supposedly mandatory admin/paperwork fee with that identification bullshit thrown in). In the end she paid close to $18,000 all in for taxes and fees for a 2010 Matrix that had been in three accidents according to the Carfax report, at least a couple of which appeared to have been really poorly repaired. That 18k includes about $600 for a bunch of front bumper repair work at a friend's body shop for dirt cheap, because the front bumper was nearly falling off in a couple spots. At the time my dad was selling my mom's 2006 Audi A4 wagon with no accidents with less KM's than the Matrix and a second set of rims with winter tires (oh yeah, two of the tires on the Matrix were bald), and he was asking 20k, so within spitting distance of what she ended up paying for the Matrix in the end.

Even if she didn't buy my mom's car, she paid 20% too much for her car just because she really wanted her situation resolved (previous car was stolen etc.) and because women should never fucking deal with any sort of commission based salesman alone. She was just supposed to be dropping some info off at the dealership to get her financing confirmed after our initial dealership visit together, next second she's calling me saying she bought the damn thing.
 

Izo

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Maybe she didn't want to buy her mother in laws used car? She already got the son, you know.
 

Eomer

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Despite being a few years older, it would have been twice the car for basically the same price. But in case you missed it, I said that wasn't the point. The point was she paid at least 20% too much for a used car for no good reason other than impatience and not wanting to sack up and dicker with a car salesman. She'd decided she wanted THAT car, and needed it NOW, even if it meant spending several thousand dollars more of money that she doesn't have.

Chicks...
 

Soygen

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Do you have to be a customer of said program in order to purchase? In your example, AMEX.
I think you're supposed to be(though I think you can just go to TrueCar.com), but I did it through the Amex one and never once had to show or prove I had am AmEx card, even though I do.
 

Intrinsic

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I used a combination of TrueCar and Consumer Reports special car buying section of the website. Coworker (Indian) had a subscription and gave me his login. Based on those two resources and proper buying time, TrueCar 'says' I paid in the bottom 0.6% or close last time I looked.

Prices of 'what you should pay' were close on both, but CR.com was more aggressive and that is the offer I walked in with.

I also has access to Ford X-plan pricing (other coworkers said it was crap when buying their Ford trucks), whatever VWs was, and umm someone else. All in all I think just knowing what an acceptable offer / price was, was the best option.
 

Falstaff

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X plan pricing at Ford is only like $1,000 cheaper than friends and family, and friends and family is open to anyone... meaning a salesman can give you that price regardless.

To get X plan you need to be related to someone who works for Ford, at least that's what we were told, but they may be able to give it to whomever they want.
 

Intrinsic

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Some corporate web portal thing. To be honest I probably would have used it just because you print it out, hand it to the dealer, and walk out with the car, no hassle no negotiation. But the Ford dealer here was such an absolute trash pit and offensive old man operation it pissed me off. Nothing frustrates me more as a sales guy than seeing other sales guys be douches.
 

Izo

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What car brand has Intrinsic embarrassed? Hyundai? Can't possibly be worse thanDacia in Europe. Those Romanian guys smoke pot while throwing rocks at metal to make cars. Cheap though. Meh.
 

Eomer

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Don't worry, I've managed to choke down the urge to give her shit, hence my need to vent about it here.
 

Orcus_sl

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Here's something for you car guys to laugh at on a Friday!

Bought a new Beetle. It's a 2013, got an insane deal from a dealer trying to get it moved. $7k off msrp.

I don't know what it is about Beetles. I didn't care either way until I drove my girlfriend's a long time ago. It was decent enough that I bought my own, used turbo s with low miles. Maybe it's the cavernous front cabin, as a tall guy that likes smaller cars this was the most awesome thing about that car. Another great thing about them is that they aren't too popular, so deals are there to be had. Owning my previous one for the last 8 years, I grew to love it, girlycar stigma and all. Couple of issues with shitty VDub electronics, but transmission and engine and suspension solid as a rock. The Monsoon system in that thing fucking rocked too. I would even call it better than the Fender(panasonic) system in the new one. At least as far as mid-bass response goes. Really great stock system in that car. Can't really explain why I find them so charming. Guess we all develop favorites.

Stage 1 Revo tune purchased and incoming when I get a few more miles on her. She will be making around 250hp at that point. Just what I want. A zippy, fun DD with a couple of teeth under the hood if you get her mad
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The adaptive bi-xenons are pretty cool.

inb4 gay/girl jokes
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The old one and the new one. Took the pic of my old one a few months ago, last good pic I got of her
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Really wish I could've just kept her and made her into a fun track or autocross experiment, but not to be.

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Vinen

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Here's something for you car guys to laugh at on a Friday!

Bought a new Beetle. It's a 2013, got an insane deal from a dealer trying to get it moved. $7k off msrp.

I don't know what it is about Beetles. I didn't care either way until I drove my girlfriend's a long time ago. It was decent enough that I bought my own, used turbo s with low miles. Maybe it's the cavernous front cabin, as a tall guy that likes smaller cars this was the most awesome thing about that car. Another great thing about them is that they aren't too popular, so deals are there to be had. Owning my previous one for the last 8 years, I grew to love it, girlycar stigma and all. Couple of issues with shitty VDub electronics, but transmission and engine and suspension solid as a rock. The Monsoon system in that thing fucking rocked too. I would even call it better than the Fender(panasonic) system in the new one. At least as far as mid-bass response goes. Really great stock system in that car. Can't really explain why I find them so charming. Guess we all develop favorites.

Stage 1 Revo tune purchased and incoming when I get a few more miles on her. She will be making around 250hp at that point. Just what I want. A zippy, fun DD with a couple of teeth under the hood if you get her mad
wink.png


The adaptive bi-xenons are pretty cool.

inb4 gay/girl jokes
redface.png


The old one and the new one. Took the pic of my old one a few months ago, last good pic I got of her
frown.png
Really wish I could've just kept her and made her into a fun track or autocross experiment, but not to be.
Never understood why people want to own a hitlermobile.
 

Antarius

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I'm thinking of "upgrading" from my '09 335i x sedan to an '11 Audi A5 or S5 cabriolet.

I just can't believe it took BMW until this year to begin producing a Convertible with AWD.

But I'm still not a fan of 4 series... and my original plan was to buy a Tesla within a couple years, but it seems like the model x and e are just continually being pushed back further and further (plus awd is a huge plus for me, since I'm expected to show up to work even in the worst emergency blizzard conditions), and I'm not excited at all by any other hybrid/EV outside of like the bmw i8 which is outside of my price range. So I started thinking, I'll eventually want to get rid of this car, and what's equivilent or better than what I currently drive, and I'm honestly not left with many options. I love my BMW, it's one of the nicest cars I've ever driven. (Maybe not as fun as my EVO X, but infinitely more comfortable at highway driving thanks to a transmission that isn't shit)

I'm just a little torn on whether I'd be happy with an A5, or stay with an equivilent engine and go with the S5, especially since it's like a 10,000 dollar difference used, which is hard to justify even if I could justify to myself the 5,000 or so difference between the 328 and 335. I wasn't a fan of of the 328 at all, but maybe I'll be happier with Audi's Base engine, I guess I'll just need to test drive it.


And my girlfriend drives a Chevy Sonic... She didn't negotiate at all on the price, and got a completely base model, it sucks, but it's hers... I'm sure it would be an "ok" car with a few options, but I would have NEVER considered the base engine in it, or getting it without power windows... I mean jesus, I didn't even know that cars were being produced in 2014 with hand cranks. I mean, 14,000 can buy you a pretty decent used car, or a completely shit new car, and women fall for shit like "warrenty" rather than just thinking that if they buy an 10,000 dollar car and something goes bad... they can just afford to replace anything that fails.
 

Seventh

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I bought a new car today as well. My E92 gave me 110k completely trouble-free miles, but I have a long commute and needed something more MTB-friendly (that I could put a hitch on for a bike rack, plus space for my filthy ass clothes and helmets and shit). Got a solid trade on the car and just paid cash for the rest. 25k out the door loaded with nav/leather/moonroof, dealer was refreshingly bullshit-free and the whole deal took about an hour to put together.

I'll definitely miss the shit out of the BMW (best car I ever owned, by a long shot) but overall I'm pretty happy with the XV. 33 MPG will be great in the summer when gas is 4 bucks a gallon, and it's a lot of car for short money. Plus it'll be nice not to have to take my golf clubs out of the trunk to go food shopping and whatnot, heh.
 

Fifey

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I bought a new car today as well. My E92 gave me 110k completely trouble-free miles, but I have a long commute and needed something more MTB-friendly (that I could put a hitch on for a bike rack, plus space for my filthy ass clothes and helmets and shit). Got a solid trade on the car and just paid cash for the rest. 25k out the door loaded with nav/leather/moonroof, dealer was refreshingly bullshit-free and the whole deal took about an hour to put together.

I'll definitely miss the shit out of the BMW (best car I ever owned, by a long shot) but overall I'm pretty happy with the XV. 33 MPG will be great in the summer when gas is 4 bucks a gallon, and it's a lot of car for short money. Plus it'll be nice not to have to take my golf clubs out of the trunk to go food shopping and whatnot, heh.
But the question is, what parts do they have for sale that are anodized?
 

Noodleface

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Little over a year and hit 36k miles on my 13 accord. Essentially that is the end of my lease, although I have it for 2 more years. Haven't had a single issue yet. I think it's still being broken in at this point. Best car I've ever owned.